Re: [PATCH 2/3] Allow isatty to be overriden with GIT_FORCE_TTY
On Fri, 9 Jul 2021 at 20:21, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
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> Avishay Matayev <me@avishay.dev> writes:
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> > On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 01:03, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
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> >> Avishay Matayev <me@avishay.dev> writes:
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> >> > There are several behaviors where git will not attempt to do an action if a
> >> > tty is not present, for example - `git_pager` (pager.c) will instruct git
> >> > to not use the GIT_PAGER environment variable if stdout is not a pty.
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> >> In general, I am negative on this approach, even though I agree that
> >> the issue you are trying to solve is worth solving. "Force pretend
> >> that we are talking to a TTY" exposes too much of the internal
> >> logic in the implementation to the end users.
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> >> Often we use isatty() as an approximation for "are we being
> >> interactive?", and I wouldn't have as much problem as I have with
> >> the "FORCE_TTY" to an approach to give users a knob to tell us "do
> >> not use your logic to guess---I am telling you that we are
> >> interactive, so behave as such".
> > I'm not sure that I understand your view on this patch.
> > `git_isatty()` does exactly that, it gives the users that knob, doesn't it?
> >
> > If you don't find the approach in this patch good enough, what exactly
> > do you suggest?
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> Start with not tying this feature with the word "TTY", probably.
Well then, what are other indicators of 'interactivity' besides "TTY"?