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Re: [PATCH v2 1/7] grep: don't redundantly compile throwaway patterns under threading

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Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com>
Date
May 26, 2017, 08:06 UTC
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On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 2:58 AM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
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> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I think it's a pointless distraction to start speculating in this
>> commit message what we're going to do with --debug it if it ever
>> starts emitting some debugging information at pattern execution time.
>
> OK.
>
>> As an aside, I'd very much like to remove both --debug and the
>> --and/--or/--all-match, gives some very rough edges in the UI and how
>> easy it is to make that feature error or segfault, I suspect you might
>> be the only one using it.
>
> I agree that rewriting "grep -e A -e B" to "grep -e A|B" as an
> optimization is an interesting possibility to look into, and I can
> understand that having to support "--and" and "--not" would
> make such an optimization harder to implement. "-e A --and -e B"
> must become "-e A.*B|B.*A" and as you get more terms your unified
> pattern will grow combinatorial, at which point you would be better
> off matching N patterns and combining the result.
>
> Ever saw a user run "ps | grep rogue | grep -v grep" to find a rogue
> process to kill?  That would not work if the rogue process's command
> line has a word "grep".  Because "git grep" is often run on files in
> order to find the location the patterns appear in, "git grep -e
> pattern | grep -v unwanted" shares the same issue--the unwanted
> pattern may appear in the filename, and the downstream "grep -v" may
> filter out a valid hit.  This is why "--not" exists [*1*].  I agree
> that emulating it within the same "concatenate patterns into one"
> optimization you are envisioning may be hard.
>
> Attempting to optimize "--all-match" would share similar difficulty
> with "--and", but your matching now must be done with the entire
> buffer and not go line-by-line.  It was meant to make it possible to
> say "find commits that avarab@ talks about both regex and log", i.e.
>
>         $ git log --author=avarab@ --all-match --grep=log --grep=regex
>
> This is not something you can emulate by piping an output of grep to
> another grep.
>
> But none of the above means you have to give up optimizing.
>
> You can choose not to combine them into a single pattern if certain
> constructions are hard, and do only the easy ones.  If you think
> that harder combinations are not used very often, the result would
> be faster for many cases while not losing useful features, which is
> what we want.

To be clear the point of my mail was not to say "I can't think of a way to support both of these things, help!", obviously we can continue to maintain two codepaths. The point was to raise the idea that we could simply remove the more complex & doomed to forever be slow codepath.

Obviously there are caveats with the likes of "grep foo | grep bar" that don't exist with "grep -e foo --and -e bar". I'm less interested in whether we can come up with cases that wouldn't be possible if this were removed, than if anyone's using them in practice.

I suspect that to the extent anyone uses this for common things it could be emulated by --single-line --perl-regexp and e.g. 'foo.*bar' instead of 'foo' --and 'bar'. I.e. we could offer to AND together your regexes and match them over the entire content.

If someone needed something more complex we could just show an example of piping e.g. \0-delimited commit messages into an arbitrary perl script you provide.

Anyway, I've only looked this over a tiny bit, and I don't know whether it's worth it to remove this, right now I was just interested in some reports of what it was used for. I.e. whether anyone uses it for N-level deep mixed AND/OR branches, or whether it's really just a lazy way to concat regexes and get around the current limitation of not being able to match across lines.

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> [Footnote]
>
> *1* For human consumption, lack of "--not" may not hurt in the sense
>     that there are workarounds (i.e. you can do without "| grep -v
>     unwanted" and filter irrelevant ones by eyeballing).  But it is
>     essential while scripting and trying to be precise.
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Message 57 of 58 in “Easy to review grep & pre-PCRE changes”
  1. 00/30 Easy to review grep & pre-PCRE changesÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  2. 01/30 Makefile & configure: reword inaccurate comment about PCREÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  3. 02/30 grep & rev-list doc: stop promising libpcre for --perl-regexpÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  4. 03/30 test-lib: rename the LIBPCRE prerequisite to PCREÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  5. 04/30 log: add exhaustive tests for pattern style options & configÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  6. 07/30 grep: add a test for backreferences in PCRE patternsÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  7. 05/30 log: make --regexp-ignore-case work with --perl-regexpÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  8. Junio C HamanoMay 20, 2017
  9. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMay 21, 2017
  10. Junio C HamanoMay 22, 2017
  11. 06/30 grep: add a test asserting that --perl-regexp dies when !PCREÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  12. 08/30 grep: change non-ASCII -i test to stop using --debugÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  13. 12/30 grep: add a test helper function for less verbose -f \0 testsÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  14. 10/30 grep: amend submodule recursion test for regex engine testingÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  15. 09/30 grep: add tests for --threads=N and grep.threadsÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  16. 13/30 grep: prepare for testing binary regexes containing rx metacharactersÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  17. 11/30 grep: add tests for grep pattern types being passed to submodulesÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  18. 14/30 grep: add tests to fix blind spots with \0 patternsÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  19. 15/30 perf: add a GIT_PERF_MAKE_COMMAND for when *_MAKE_OPTS won't doÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  20. Junio C HamanoMay 20, 2017
  21. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMay 21, 2017
  22. 18/30 perf: add a comparison test of grep regex engines with -FÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  23. 20/30 grep: catch a missing enum in switch statementÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  24. 17/30 perf: add a comparison test of grep regex enginesÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  25. 19/30 perf: add a comparison test of log --grep regex enginesÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  26. 16/30 perf: emit progress output when unpacking & buildingÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  27. 21/30 grep: remove redundant regflags assignmentsÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  28. 22/30 grep: factor test for \0 in grep patterns into a functionÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  29. Brandon WilliamsMay 23, 2017
  30. 25/30 grep: move is_fixed() earlier to avoid forward declarationÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  31. 23/30 grep: change the internal PCRE macro names to be PCRE1Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  32. 24/30 grep: change internal *pcre* variable & function names to be *pcre1*Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  33. 26/30 test-lib: add a PTHREADS prerequisiteÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  34. 28/30 pack-objects: fix buggy warning about threadsÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  35. 30/30 grep: assert that threading is enabled when calling grep_{lock,unlock}Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  36. 29/30 grep: given --threads with NO_PTHREADS=YesPlease, warnÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  37. 27/30 pack-objects & index-pack: add test for --threads warningÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2017
  38. Junio C HamanoMay 20, 2017
  39. 0/7 PCRE v2, PCRE v1 JIT, log -P & fixesÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 23, 2017
  40. 3/7 log: add -P as a synonym for --perl-regexpÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 23, 2017
  41. 5/7 grep: un-break building with PCRE < 8.32Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 23, 2017
  42. Junio C HamanoMay 24, 2017
  43. Junio C HamanoMay 24, 2017
  44. 6/7 grep: un-break building with PCRE < 8.20Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 23, 2017
  45. 2/7 grep: skip pthreads overhead when using one threadÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 23, 2017
  46. Junio C HamanoMay 24, 2017
  47. 4/7 grep: add support for the PCRE v1 JIT APIÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 23, 2017
  48. Junio C HamanoMay 24, 2017
  49. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMay 24, 2017
  50. 7/7 grep: add support for PCRE v2Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 23, 2017
  51. Junio C HamanoMay 24, 2017
  52. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMay 25, 2017
  53. 1/7 grep: don't redundantly compile throwaway patterns under threadingÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 23, 2017
  54. Junio C HamanoMay 24, 2017
  55. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMay 25, 2017
  56. Junio C HamanoMay 26, 2017
  57. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMay 26, 2017
  58. Junio C HamanoMay 26, 2017

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