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Re: git-for-windows supporting public shaming and repressing community's opinion

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Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
Date
Jun 16, 2020, 20:15 UTC
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On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 12:30 PM Kaue Doretto Grecchi <kauedg@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Recently I've been blocked from the git-for-windows Github repository
> because of this
> (https://github.com/git-for-windows/git/issues/2674#issuecomment-643795833)
Most your comment looks fine to me, but this part clearly was not:
    "So your argument is really dull and kind of childish."

I'm not part of git-for-windows, but I'd likely also start blocking people when name calling starts, so I can't fault them for it. I don't know what their process is for unblocking people if they amend their ways or after a cool-down period or whatever, so I can't really comment further.

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> comment. At the same time the following user was not blocked and his
> comment hasn't been marked "off-topic" until the issue was closed to
> "only collaborators" due to the high rate of people disagreeing with
> the motivations of the issue.
>
> (https://github.com/git-for-windows/git/issues/2674#issuecomment-642049938)
>
> > mlvzk 6 days ago
> >
> > Agreed. On a side note, GitHub should maintain a repository with a list of developers that still
> > use the master/slave terminology. Perhaps that'd be enough of an incentive for some to change - > name and shame!
> > We could also have an icon on their profile page that'd flag them as dangerous.

I agree with you that this comment looks like it should have been marked off-topic earlier and seems problematic. It does avoid being directly disrespectful and thus might not technically violate the code of conduct, but I am definitely not a fan of their trying to suggest that other folks should violate it (their suggestion seems to be that GitHub should do things that would not fit with using welcoming and inclusive language, or being respectful of differing viewpoints and experiences, or showing empathy to other community members, or assume the best intentions, etc.).

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> It is appalling that the repo's maintainers kept this comment and
> allowed the user to continue interacting, while suppressing and
> blocking users who were on-topic, having a civil, respectful
> discussion but happened to disagree with the issue's author (dscho -
> https://github.com/dscho) reasons.

Just my own guess here, but I think calling others' arguments "dull and kind of childish" is not civil or respectful, and thus that you missed the reasons for your being blocked.

Hope that helps, Elijah

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