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Re: We should add a "git gc --auto" after "git clone" due to commit graph

From
Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Date
Oct 8, 2018, 18:29 UTC
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On 10/8/2018 2:10 PM, SZEDER Gábor wrote:
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> On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 12:57:34PM -0400, Derrick Stolee wrote:
>> Nice! These numbers make sense to me, in terms of how many TREESAME queries
>> we actually need to perform for such a query.
> Yeah...  because you didn't notice that I deliberately cheated :)
>
> As it turned out, it's not just about the number of diff queries that
> we can spare, but, for the speedup _ratio_, it's more about how
> expensive those diff queries are.
>
> git.git has a rather flat hierarchy, and 't/' is the 372th entry in
> the current root tree object, while 'valgrind/' is the 923th entry,
> and the diff machinery spends considerable time wading through the
> previous entries.  Notice the "carefully chosen path" remark in my
> previous email; I think this particular path has the highest number of
> preceeding tree entries, and, in addition, 't/' changes rather
> frequently, so the diff machinery often has to scan two relatively big
> tree objects.  Had I chosen 'Documentation/RelNotes/1.5.0.1.txt'
> instead, i.e. another path two directories deep, but whose leading
> path components are both near the beginning of the tree objects, the
> speedup would be much less impressive: 0.282s vs. 0.049s, i.e. "only"
> ~5.7x instead of ~24.8x.

This is expected. The performance ratio is better when the path is any of the following:

1. A very deep path (need to walk multiple trees to answer TREESAME)
2. An entry is late in a very wide tree (need to spend extra time 
parsing tree object)
3. The path doesn't change very often (need to inspect many TREESAME 
pairs before finding enough interesting commits)
4. Some sub-path changes often (so the TREESAME comparison needs to 
parse beyond that sub-path often)

Our standard examples (Git and Linux repos) don't have many paths that have these properties. But: they do exist. In other projects, this is actually typical. Think about Java projects that frequently have ~5 levels of folders before actually touching a code file.

When I was implementing the Bloom filter feature for Azure Repos, I ran performance tests on the Linux repo using a random sampling of paths. The typical speedup was 5x while some outliers were in the 25x range.

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>
>>> But I'm afraid it will take a while until I get around to turn it into
>>> something presentable...
>> Do you have the code pushed somewhere public where one could take a look? I
>> Do you have the code pushed somewhere public where one could take a
>> look? I could provide some early feedback.
> Nah, definitely not...  I know full well how embarassingly broken this
> implementation is, I don't need others to tell me that ;)
There are two questions that I was hoping to answer by looking at your code:
1. How do you store your Bloom filter? Is it connected to the 
commit-graph and split on a commit-by-commit basis (storing "$path" as a 
key), or is it one huge Bloom filter (storing "$commitid:$path" as key)?
2. Where does your Bloom filter check plug into the TREESAME logic? I 
haven't investigated this part, but hopefully it isn't too complicated.

Thanks, -Stolee

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  1. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 3, 2018
  2. SZEDER GáborOct 3, 2018
  3. Derrick StoleeOct 3, 2018
  4. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 3, 2018
  5. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 3, 2018
  6. SZEDER GáborOct 3, 2018
  7. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 3, 2018
  8. SZEDER GáborOct 3, 2018
  9. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 3, 2018
  10. SZEDER GáborOct 3, 2018
  11. Junio C HamanoOct 5, 2018
  12. SZEDER GáborOct 10, 2018
  13. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 10, 2018
  14. Stefan BellerOct 3, 2018
  15. Jeff KingOct 3, 2018
  16. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 3, 2018
  17. Stefan BellerOct 3, 2018
  18. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 3, 2018
  19. Jeff KingOct 3, 2018
  20. Derrick StoleeOct 3, 2018
  21. Jeff KingOct 3, 2018
  22. SZEDER GáborOct 8, 2018
  23. Derrick StoleeOct 8, 2018
  24. SZEDER GáborOct 8, 2018
  25. Derrick StoleeOct 8, 2018
  26. Jeff KingOct 9, 2018
  27. Bloom Filters (was Re: We should add a "git gc --auto" after "git clone" due to commit graph)Derrick Stolee, Oct 9, 2018
  28. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 9, 2018
  29. Jeff KingOct 9, 2018
  30. Derrick StoleeOct 9, 2018
  31. Jeff KingOct 9, 2018
  32. Jeff KingOct 9, 2018
  33. 1/3 initial tree-bitmap proof of conceptJeff King, Oct 9, 2018
  34. 2/3 test-tree-bitmap: add "dump" modeJeff King, Oct 9, 2018
  35. Junio C HamanoOct 10, 2018
  36. Jeff KingOct 11, 2018
  37. 3/3 test-tree-bitmap: replace ewah with custom rle encodingJeff King, Oct 9, 2018
  38. Junio C HamanoOct 10, 2018
  39. Jeff KingOct 11, 2018
  40. Derrick StoleeOct 11, 2018
  41. Jeff KingOct 11, 2018
  42. SZEDER GáborOct 9, 2018
  43. 0/4 Bloom filter experimentSZEDER Gábor, Oct 9, 2018
  44. 1/4 Add a (very) barebones Bloom filter implementationSZEDER Gábor, Oct 9, 2018
  45. 2/4 commit-graph: write a Bloom filter containing changed paths for each commitSZEDER Gábor, Oct 9, 2018
  46. Jeff KingOct 9, 2018
  47. SZEDER GáborOct 9, 2018
  48. 3/4 revision.c: use the Bloom filter to speed up path-limited revision walksSZEDER Gábor, Oct 9, 2018
  49. 4/4 revision.c: add GIT_TRACE_BLOOM_FILTER for a bit of statisticsSZEDER Gábor, Oct 9, 2018
  50. Derrick StoleeOct 9, 2018
  51. 0/2 Per-commit filter proof of conceptJonathan Tan, Oct 11, 2018
  52. 1/2 One filter per commitJonathan Tan, Oct 11, 2018
  53. Derrick StoleeOct 11, 2018
  54. Per-commit and per-parent filters for 2 parentsJonathan Tan, Oct 11, 2018
  55. 2/2 Only make bloom filter for first parentJonathan Tan, Oct 11, 2018
  56. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 11, 2018
  57. Derrick StoleeOct 15, 2018
  58. Junio C HamanoOct 16, 2018
  59. Derrick StoleeOct 16, 2018
  60. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 16, 2018
  61. Derrick StoleeOct 16, 2018
  62. Junio C HamanoOct 18, 2018
  63. Jonathan TanOct 16, 2018
  64. Junio C HamanoOct 8, 2018
  65. Duy NguyenOct 3, 2018
  66. Duy NguyenOct 3, 2018
  67. We should add a "git gc --auto" after "git clone" due to commit graphÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Oct 4, 2018
  68. Derrick StoleeOct 5, 2018
  69. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 5, 2018
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  71. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 5, 2018
  72. Jeff KingOct 5, 2018
  73. Derrick StoleeOct 5, 2018
  74. Jeff KingOct 5, 2018
  75. Derrick StoleeOct 5, 2018
  76. Jeff KingOct 5, 2018
  77. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 5, 2018
  78. Jeff KingOct 5, 2018

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