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Re: [PATCH] doc: warn against --committer-date-is-author-date

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Johannes Sixt <j6t@kdbg.org>
Date
Oct 16, 2025, 15:28 UTC
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Am 16.10.25 um 16:13 schrieb Kristoffer Haugsbakk:
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> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025, at 11:15, Johannes Sixt wrote:
>> Am 08.10.25 um 21:45 schrieb kristofferhaugsbakk@fastmail.com:
>>> From: Kristoffer Haugsbakk <code@khaugsbakk.name>
>>>
>>> This option has legitimate uses but could create a commit history which
>>> violates the assumption that commits are strictly increasing in terms of
>>> commit timestamps. Warn against that in both git-am(1) and git-rebase(1).
>>
>> I think that the discussion has meanwhile converged insofar that we do
>> not think that the option has a legitimate use case. Rather, it was
>> introduced to solve one particular problem case (that is cited below),
>> but with a solution that was misguided and not well thought through.
> 
> Okay if this was the cited example:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/git/46d6db660901221441q60eb90bdge601a7a250c3a247@mail.gmail.com/
> 
> Then we can clarify with two questions:
> 
> 1. Is the use case itself reasonable, i.e. abusing[1] git-am(1) to
>    pseudo-import commits (modulo the committer)?

The cited example talks about a set of patches and expects them to create the same object IDs each time they are imported. This expectation only makes sense when the import happens on the same base commit. But then, why in the world would one want to import the same patches multiple times??

A mailbox full of patches is not a suitable storage form for commits. This particular use-case for git-am just does not make sense.

> Note: Not relevant here but in case there were more than one paragraph
> on this option already: should the WARNING be the final paragraph? Or in
> the second paragraph? (Like an imporant aside interruption after the
> introduction.) I think the final one but just clarifying.

It certainly depends on the case. I think I would begin by putting the warning last and then judge whether a better place is warranted.

>> Perhaps insert "Do not use this option." as the the first sentence,
>> either before the description (my preference) or in the warning.
> 
> Regarding reading flow, this seems more back-and-forth than this patch.
Fair enough.
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> Like this?
> 
>     Do not use this option. By default the command records the date from
>     the e-mail ...
> 
>     WARNING: ...
> 
> In that case I think parentheses makes it read better:
> 
>     (Do not use this option.) By default the command records the date from
>     the e-mail ...
> 
>     WARNING: ...

I do not like the latter. If you do not like the former, I wouldn't mind not adding the sentence. The warning should be sufficient.

-- Hannes
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Message 18 of 25 in “How dangerous is --committer-date-is-author-date these days?”
  1. Johannes SixtSep 28, 2024
  2. Phillip WoodSep 28, 2024
  3. Phillip WoodSep 28, 2024
  4. Kristoffer HaugsbakkSep 30, 2024
  5. Junio C HamanoSep 30, 2024
  6. SZEDER GáborOct 8, 2025
  7. doc: warn against --committer-date-is-author-datekristofferhaugsbakk@fastmail.com, Oct 8, 2025
  8. Phillip WoodOct 9, 2025
  9. Kristoffer HaugsbakkOct 9, 2025
  10. Kristoffer HaugsbakkOct 9, 2025
  11. Junio C HamanoOct 9, 2025
  12. Kristoffer HaugsbakkOct 9, 2025
  13. Junio C HamanoOct 9, 2025
  14. Kristoffer HaugsbakkOct 9, 2025
  15. Johannes SixtOct 11, 2025
  16. Kristoffer HaugsbakkOct 16, 2025
  17. Kristoffer HaugsbakkOct 16, 2025
  18. Johannes SixtOct 16, 2025
  19. Kristoffer HaugsbakkOct 16, 2025
  20. Junio C HamanoOct 16, 2025
  21. Kristoffer HaugsbakkNov 19, 2025
  22. doc: warn against --committer-date-is-author-datekristofferhaugsbakk@fastmail.com, Nov 20, 2025
  23. Johannes SixtNov 20, 2025
  24. Phillip WoodNov 26, 2025
  25. Kristoffer HaugsbakkNov 27, 2025

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