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Re: [PATCH 2/3] hash-object doc: elaborate on -w and --literally promises

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Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com>
Date
May 24, 2019, 10:12 UTC
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On Fri, May 24 2019, Jakub Narebski wrote:
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> Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
>> On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 11:53:11PM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>>
>>> Clarify the hash-object docs to explicitly note that the --literally
>>> option guarantees that a loose object will be written, but that a
>>> normal -w ("write") invocation doesn't.
>>
>> I had to double-check here: you mean that _when_ we are writing an
>> object, "--literally" would always write loose, right?
>>
>>> At first I thought talking about "loose object" in the docs was a
>>> mistake in 83115ac4a8 ("git-hash-object.txt: document --literally
>>> option", 2015-05-04), but as is clear from 5ba9a93b39 ("hash-object:
>>> add --literally option", 2014-09-11) this was intended all along.
>>
>> Hmm. After reading both of those, I do think it's mostly an
>> implementation detail. I would not be at all surprised to find that the
>> test suite relies on this (e.g., cleaning up with rm
>> .git/objects/ab/cd1234). But I suspect we also rely on that for the
>> non-literal case, too. ;)
>>
>> So I am on the fence. In some sense it doesn't hurt to document the
>> behavior, but I'm not sure I would want to lock us in to any particular
>> behavior, even for --literally. The intent of the option (as I recall)
>> really is just "let us write whatever trash we want as an object,
>> ignoring all quality checks".
>
> I thik that this implemetation detail of `--literally` is here to stay;
> how would you otherwise fix the issue if garbage object makes Git crash?
>
> However, I would prefer to have options state _intent_; if there is
> legitimate need for a tool that creates loose objects, it would be
> better to have separate `--loose` option to `git hash-object` (which
> would imply `-w`, otherwise it doesn't have sense).

I wonder if we can just remove this option and replace it with a GIT_TEST_* env variable, or even a test-tool helper. I can't see why anyone other than our own test suite wants this, and that's why it was added. So why document it & expose it in a plumbing tool?

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>>>  --literally::
>>> -	Allow `--stdin` to hash any garbage into a loose object which might not
>>> +	Allow for hashing arbitrary data which might not
>>>  	otherwise pass standard object parsing or git-fsck checks. Useful for
>>>  	stress-testing Git itself or reproducing characteristics of corrupt or
>>> -	bogus objects encountered in the wild.
>>> +	bogus objects encountered in the wild. When writing objects guarantees
>>> +	that the written object will be a loose object, for ease of debugging.
>>
>> I had to read this last sentence a few times to parse it. Maybe a comma
>> before guarantees would help? Or even:
>>
>>   When writing objects, this option guarantees that the written object
>>   will be a loose object, for ease of debugging.
>
> I agree that this reads better.
>
> Regards,
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Message 7 of 12 in “hash-object doc: small fixes”
  1. 0/3 hash-object doc: small fixesÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2019
  2. 1/3 hash-object doc: stop mentioning git-cvsimportÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2019
  3. Jeff KingMay 22, 2019
  4. 2/3 hash-object doc: elaborate on -w and --literally promisesÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2019
  5. Jeff KingMay 22, 2019
  6. Jakub NarebskiMay 24, 2019
  7. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMay 24, 2019
  8. Jeff KingMay 28, 2019
  9. Junio C HamanoMay 28, 2019
  10. Junio C HamanoMay 28, 2019
  11. 3/3 hash-object doc: point to ls-files and rev-parseÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, May 20, 2019
  12. Jeff KingMay 22, 2019

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