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Re: [RFC] Convert builin-mailinfo.c to use The Better String Library.

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David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Date
Sep 7, 2007, 06:47 UTC
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"Dmitry Kakurin" <dmitry.kakurin@gmail.com> writes:
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> On 9/6/07, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>>
>> In other words: the choice of C is the only sane choice. I know
>> Miles Bader jokingly said "to piss you off", but it's actually
>> true. I've come to the conclusion that any programmer that would
>> prefer the project to be in C++ over C is likely a programmer that
>> I really *would* prefer to piss off, so that he doesn't come and
>> screw up any project I'm involved with.
>
> As dinosaurs (who code exclusively in C) are becoming extinct, you
> will soon find yourself alone with attitude like this.

As long as TeX, Emacs and vi are around, I would not worry too much about dinosaurs in general. But C++ is a cancerous dinosaur. It has growths that just don't belong on a C body.

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> I was coding in Assembly when there was no C.  Then in C before C++
> was created.  Now days it's C++ and C#, and I have never looked
> back.  Bad developers will write bad code in any language. But
> penalizing good developers for this illusive reason of repealing bad
> contributors is nonsense.

The problem with C++ is that every C++ developer has his own style, and reuse is an illusion within that style. Take a look at classes implementing matrix arithmetic: there are as many around as the day is long, and all of them are incompatible with one another.

With regard to programming styles, C++ does not support multiple inheritance. For a single project grown from a single start, you can get reasonable solutions. But combining stuff is creating maintenance messes.

With C, the situation is not dissimilar, but you spent less time fighting the illusion that you don't need to reimplement, anyway.

> I just wanted to get a sense of how many people share this "Git
> should be in pure C" doctrine.

What nonsense. Large parts of git already are shell scripts, so obviously there is no such doctrine. Just because C++ is not a sane proposition does not mean that others might not work.

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David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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  1. Lukas SandströmSep 4, 2007
  2. Alex RiesenSep 4, 2007
  3. Pierre HabouzitSep 4, 2007
  4. Kristian HøgsbergSep 5, 2007
  5. Matthieu MoySep 5, 2007
  6. Miles BaderSep 6, 2007
  7. Dmitry KakurinSep 6, 2007
  8. Shawn O. PearceSep 6, 2007
  9. Andreas EricssonSep 6, 2007
  10. Junio C HamanoSep 6, 2007
  11. Andreas EricssonSep 6, 2007
  12. David KastrupSep 6, 2007
  13. Miles BaderSep 6, 2007
  14. Johannes SchindelinSep 6, 2007
  15. Linus TorvaldsSep 6, 2007
  16. Dmitry KakurinSep 7, 2007
  17. Linus TorvaldsSep 7, 2007
  18. Dmitry KakurinSep 7, 2007
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  23. Steven BurnsSep 20, 2007
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  27. David KastrupSep 7, 2007
  28. Dmitry KakurinSep 8, 2007
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  30. Andreas EricssonSep 9, 2007
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  37. Walter BrightSep 7, 2007
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  46. Andreas EricssonSep 8, 2007
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  49. Wincent ColaiutaSep 7, 2007
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  51. Walter BrightSep 7, 2007
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  60. John 'Z-Bo' ZabroskiSep 8, 2007
  61. David KastrupSep 8, 2007
  62. Steven BurnsSep 19, 2007
  63. Wincent ColaiutaSep 7, 2007
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  67. Andreas EricssonSep 7, 2007
  68. Johannes SchindelinSep 7, 2007
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  72. Andreas EricssonSep 7, 2007
  73. Wincent ColaiutaSep 7, 2007
  74. Andreas EricssonSep 9, 2007
  75. David KastrupSep 7, 2007
  76. Wincent ColaiutaSep 7, 2007
  77. Walter BrightSep 7, 2007
  78. Andreas EricssonSep 7, 2007
  79. Walter BrightSep 7, 2007
  80. David KastrupSep 7, 2007
  81. Andreas EricssonSep 9, 2007
  82. Bernd JendrissekSep 17, 2009
  83. Wincent ColaiutaSep 7, 2007
  84. Walter BrightSep 7, 2007
  85. Steven BurnsSep 22, 2007
  86. David KastrupSep 7, 2007
  87. Andy ParkinsSep 7, 2007
  88. David KastrupSep 7, 2007
  89. Johannes SchindelinSep 7, 2007
  90. Dmitry KakurinSep 8, 2007
  91. David KastrupSep 8, 2007
  92. Alex RiesenSep 8, 2007
  93. figoSep 24, 2007
  94. David KastrupSep 24, 2007
  95. Steven BurnsSep 25, 2007
  96. David KastrupSep 25, 2007
  97. Syed M RaihanMay 22, 2012
  98. Ian MoltonJun 10, 2010
  99. Jakub NarebskiJun 11, 2010
  100. Dario RodriguezJun 11, 2010
  101. Kristian HøgsbergSep 5, 2007
  102. Lukas SandströmSep 7, 2007

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