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Re: [RFC PATCH] Documentation: new upstream rebase recovery section in git-rebase

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Sep 2, 2008, 21:39 UTC
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Thomas Rast <trast@student.ethz.ch> writes:
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> I flagged it as RFC because I'd appreciate some feedback:
>
> - Are the warnings too repetitive?  I fear that if we sound too
>   protective, users won't listen.
>
> - Is it perhaps too verbose, or in the wrong place?  I did not want to
>   detract from the feature descriptions that the manpage should first
>   and foremost contain.  Chances that a user will "accidentally" read
>   the section at this position and length seem fairly low however.

It feels on a bit too repetitive side, but I think this is going in the right direction. How about dropping the earlier part of the change to Notes section (but keep "See also" which is a good guide for understanding the said "implications")?

> +HELP, MY UPSTREAM HAS REBASED!
> +------------------------------

I read this section only once, but it looked reasonable as a recovery procedure to me.

The additions you made are all about why rebasing public history is bad from mechanisms (overlapping changes made by old upstream history and new upstream history, unless they are identical, will cause merge conflicts between themselves that downstream will have hard time resolving) POV. While that description is all good, I think there should also be a discussion from the patchflow/workflow angle.

"Upstream has rebased" almost implies that it has its own upstream (i.e. "My upstream" is not the toplevel upstream, but is a subsystem tree or something).

Rebasing upstream is bad, but an upstream that backmerges from its own upstream too often is equally bad, and the reason of the badness, viewed from the workflow angle, shares exactly the same component.

It means that the mid-level upstream in question is not focused enough.
Cf.
    http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/681763
    http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/684030
    http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/684073
    http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/684091
    http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/638511
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Message 2 of 29 in “Documentation: new upstream rebase recovery section in git-rebase”
  1. Documentation: new upstream rebase recovery section in git-rebaseThomas Rast, Sep 2, 2008
  2. Junio C HamanoSep 2, 2008
  3. Thomas RastSep 3, 2008
  4. 0/2 Documentation: new upstream rebase recovery section in git-rebaseThomas Rast, Sep 11, 2008
  5. 1/2 Documentation: new upstream rebase recovery section in git-rebaseThomas Rast, Sep 11, 2008
  6. 2/2 Documentation: Refer to git-rebase(1) to warn against rewritingThomas Rast, Sep 11, 2008
  7. Documentation: add manpage about workflowsThomas Rast, Sep 11, 2008
  8. Jakub NarebskiSep 11, 2008
  9. [RFH] Asciidoc non-example blocks [was: Re: [RFC PATCH] Documentation: add manpage about workflows]Thomas Rast, Sep 12, 2008
  10. Santi BéjarSep 20, 2008
  11. Dmitry PotapovSep 21, 2008
  12. Thomas RastSep 30, 2008
  13. Thomas RastSep 30, 2008
  14. Santi BéjarOct 1, 2008
  15. Documentation: add manpage about workflowsThomas Rast, Oct 9, 2008
  16. [Interdiff] [RFC PATCH v2] Documentation: add manpage about workflowsThomas Rast, Oct 9, 2008
  17. Junio C HamanoOct 9, 2008
  18. Documentation: add manpage about workflowsThomas Rast, Oct 19, 2008
  19. [Interdiff] [RFC PATCH v3] Documentation: add manpage about workflowsThomas Rast, Oct 19, 2008
  20. Junio C HamanoOct 19, 2008
  21. Marcus GriepSep 12, 2008
  22. Junio C HamanoSep 13, 2008
  23. 0/3 Documentation: rebase and workflowsThomas Rast, Sep 13, 2008
  24. 1/3 Documentation: new upstream rebase recovery section in git-rebaseThomas Rast, Sep 13, 2008
  25. 2/3 Documentation: Refer to git-rebase(1) to warn against rewritingThomas Rast, Sep 13, 2008
  26. 3/3 Documentation: add manpage about workflowsThomas Rast, Sep 13, 2008
  27. Interdiff: [3/3] Documentation: add manpage about workflowsThomas Rast, Sep 13, 2008
  28. Junio C HamanoSep 8, 2008
  29. Thomas RastSep 9, 2008

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