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Re: What's cooking in git.git (Oct 2012, #01; Tue, 2)

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Oct 4, 2012, 16:39 UTC
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Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu> writes:
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> On 10/03/2012 08:17 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> 
>> What is the semantics of ** in the first place?  Is it described to
>> a reasonable level of detail in the documentation updates?  For
>> example does "**foo" match "afoo", "a/b/foo", "a/bfoo", "a/foo/b",
>> "a/bfoo/c"?  Does "x**y" match "xy", "xay", "xa/by", "x/a/y"?
>> 
>> I am guessing that the only sensible definition is that "**"
>> requires anything that comes before it (if exists) is at a proper
>> hierarchy boundary, and anything matches it is also at a proper
>> hierarchy boundary, so "x**y" matches "x/a/y" and not "xy", "xay",
>> nor "xa/by" in the above example.  If "x**y" can match "xy" or "xay"
>> (or "**foo" can match "afoo"), it would be unreasonable to say it
>> implies the pattern is anchored at any level, no?
>
> Given that there is no obvious interpretation for what a construct like
> "x**y" would mean, and many plausible guesses (most of which sound
> rather useless), I suggest that we forbid it.  This will make the
> feature easier to explain and make .gitignore files that use it easier
> to understand.
>
> I think that 98% of the usefulness of "**" would be in constructs where
> it replaces a proper part of the pathname, like "**/SOMETHING" or
> "SOMETHING/**/SOMETHING"...

I think it is a good way to go in the longer term, if we all agree that "**" matching anything does not give us a useful semantics [*1*].

Is it something we can easily get by simple patch into the wildmatch code? I'd hate to see us parsing the input and validating it before passing it to the library, as we will surely botch the quoting or something while doing so.

When we require "x/**/y", I think we still want it to match "x/y". Do people agree, or are there good reasons to require at least one level between x and y for such a pattern? Assuming that we do want to match "x/y" with "x/**/y", I suspect that "'**' matches anything including a slash" would not give us that semantics. Is it something we can easily fix in the wildmatch code?

[Footnote]

*1* The message you are responding to was written in a somewhat provocative way on purpose so that people who like the way rsync matches "**" can vocally object. I would like to see arguments from the both sides to see if it makes sense.

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Message 21 of 28 in “What's cooking in git.git (Oct 2012, #01; Tue, 2)”
  1. Junio C HamanoOct 2, 2012
  2. Nguyen Thai Ngoc DuyOct 3, 2012
  3. Junio C HamanoOct 3, 2012
  4. Nguyen Thai Ngoc DuyOct 4, 2012
  5. Junio C HamanoOct 4, 2012
  6. 0/6 wildmatch part 2Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Oct 4, 2012
  7. 1/6 attr: remove the union in struct match_attrNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Oct 4, 2012
  8. 2/6 attr: avoid strlen() on every matchNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Oct 4, 2012
  9. 3/6 attr: avoid searching for basename on every matchNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Oct 4, 2012
  10. 4/6 attr: more matching optimizations from .gitignoreNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Oct 4, 2012
  11. 5/6 gitignore: do not do basename match with patterns that have '**'Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Oct 4, 2012
  12. Junio C HamanoOct 4, 2012
  13. Johannes SixtOct 5, 2012
  14. Nguyen Thai Ngoc DuyOct 5, 2012
  15. 6/6 t3001: note about expected "**" behaviorNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Oct 4, 2012
  16. Junio C HamanoOct 4, 2012
  17. Junio C HamanoOct 4, 2012
  18. Michael HaggertyOct 4, 2012
  19. Nguyen Thai Ngoc DuyOct 4, 2012
  20. Michael HaggertyOct 4, 2012
  21. Junio C HamanoOct 4, 2012
  22. Andreas SchwabOct 5, 2012
  23. Matthieu MoyOct 5, 2012
  24. Andreas SchwabOct 5, 2012
  25. Nguyen Thai Ngoc DuyOct 5, 2012
  26. David Michael BarrOct 4, 2012
  27. Junio C HamanoOct 4, 2012
  28. Florian AchleitnerOct 30, 2012

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