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Re: Chicken/egg problem building from a 'git clone'

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Feb 6, 2009, 10:28 UTC
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Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:
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> Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
>>
>> Please do not encourge use of configure/autoconf *in this project*.
>
> Er ... I was not doing so.  I was saying that if one is going to use
> autoconf with git, one should use a non-ancient version.

That is nice but the statement is only half-truth, and should be followed by ", but why bother? You do not even need to use configure to build git, and insn is all here...".

Omitting that latter half and instead having him spend time to update autoconf, which is not even needed, sounds like strongly encouraging its use to me.

> I don't think merely discussing autoconf+git without pejorative asides
> is "encouraging use".

"You should use recent enough autoconf *if* you want to use configure, but why bother? You do not even need to use configure to build git, and here is how..." does not say anything pejorative about autoconf, either, and it is certainly not encouraging its use.

On the other hand, omitting "but why bother?" part is, and the reason is not because it does not badmouth autoconf, but because use of autoconf is non-essential in this project.

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Message 9 of 31 in “Chicken/egg problem building from a 'git clone'”
  1. Joi EllisFeb 6, 2009
  2. Johannes SchindelinFeb 6, 2009
  3. Joi EllisFeb 6, 2009
  4. Miles BaderFeb 6, 2009
  5. Junio C HamanoFeb 6, 2009
  6. Miles BaderFeb 6, 2009
  7. Junio C HamanoFeb 6, 2009
  8. Miles BaderFeb 6, 2009
  9. Junio C HamanoFeb 6, 2009
  10. Miles BaderFeb 6, 2009
  11. Jeff KingFeb 6, 2009
  12. Junio C HamanoFeb 6, 2009
  13. Joi EllisMar 1, 2009
  14. Björn SteinbrinkMar 1, 2009
  15. Andreas EricssonMar 5, 2009
  16. John TapsellMar 5, 2009
  17. Jeff KingMar 5, 2009
  18. Matthieu MoyMar 5, 2009
  19. Jeff KingMar 5, 2009
  20. Jakub NarebskiMar 6, 2009
  21. Matthieu MoyMar 6, 2009
  22. Johannes SchindelinMar 6, 2009
  23. John TapsellMar 6, 2009
  24. asciidoc, was Re: Chicken/egg problem building from a 'git clone'Johannes Schindelin, Mar 6, 2009
  25. John TapsellMar 6, 2009
  26. Jakub NarebskiMar 6, 2009
  27. John TapsellMar 6, 2009
  28. Björn SteinbrinkFeb 6, 2009
  29. Johannes SchindelinFeb 6, 2009
  30. Björn SteinbrinkFeb 6, 2009
  31. Daniel BarkalowFeb 6, 2009

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