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Re: PATCH: improve git switch documentation

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MMartin <git@mfriebe.de>
Date
Jul 11, 2021, 10:05 UTC
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On 11/07/2021 11:04, Sergey Organov wrote:
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> Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>>
>> I don't see the logic in here.
>>
>>    git branch topic # here 'branch' is the verb
> 
> Not to me. I assumed the "branch" is always a noun in "git branch", and
> the actual meaning of this command is:

Well, it is easy to see it as a noun. But for "branching" creation of a branch, it can be seen as verb.

Yet in
    git branch --list
it definitely is a noun.

But then how would/should those work? The action/verb is "list" or "show"

    git show branches
    git show tags
    git show ...
That completely tears apart related topics.
Or is it enough if the subcommand is a verb?
     git branch create
     git branch list
That be ok for me.
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>>> is "branch" a noun or a verb?
>>
>> Both.
> 
> No, it's rather noun plus lacking subcommand, sometimes making it look
> like verb :)
As is
     git stash
for
     git stash push
And I should guess lots of people like the short form....
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> I.e., I'm in favor of universal:
> 
>     git <command> ...
> 
> syntax to Git commands where <command> specifies an action. [Why things
> tend to drift to Lisp all the time, I wonder?]
> 

Because humans are more about the "things". The way we interact is more ofter derived from the object, than the object being purposefully made for an interaction?

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>  From that POV, for the commands you mentioned, "git bisect" is probably
> fine, whereas "git worktree", and "git remote" should better be split to
> operations on them, e.g.:
> 
>     git new remote
>     git new worktree
> 

That also makes documentation harder. People who want a worktree, want the documentation for it in one place.

So a manpage for "git new" is not desirable. It would have to be split into the manpages for the objects. But that is not good either, or is it?

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> Once that is regularized, we may as well consider allowing for inverse
> order of the first 2 arguments, by making
> 
>    git new remote
>    git remote new
> 
> the synonyms.
Having even more ways to do one and the same thing....
Btw, missing from the discussion:
    git log
"log" can be a verb, but not in the above.

Because "to log" is to write something into a log. But "git log" is to show (i.e. read) the log.

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  9. Felipe ContrerasJul 7, 2021
  10. Sergey OrganovJul 7, 2021
  11. What actually is a branch?Felipe Contreras, Jul 7, 2021
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  23. switch requires --detach [[Re: What actually is a branch]]Martin, Jul 9, 2021
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  38. Naming the --forec option [[Re: PATCH: improve git switch documentation]]Martin, Jul 10, 2021
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