Re: [PATCH v2] Writing down mail list etiquette.
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Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
- Date
- May 12, 2021, 08:32 UTC
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Eric Sunshine wrote:
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> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 2:45 AM Felipe Contreras
> <felipe.contreras@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> > > In practice, the maintainer could instead merged v5 (without having me to
> > > send v6 [final]), because v5 is merge-ready in absence of maintainer's
> > > email address in either To: or Cc:.
> >
> > Generally you don't need to worry about this, that's Junio's job. If
> > your patch is ready, Junio will merge it... But not always.
> >
> > So no, you don't need to send v6, Junio will pick v5. If he doesn't,
> > it's most likely because it slipped through the cracks, and you can see
> > that in the next "What's cooking in git.git".
> >
> > If you don't see your merge-ready patch series in "what's cooking", then
> > by all means send it again as v6, or reply to the "what's cooking" or
> > something. But generally there's no point in sending a v6 identical to a
> > v5.
> >
> > But if you already sent a v5 that is is merge-ready, there's no need
> > to send an identical v6.
> >
> > All these suggestions are of course based on my own experience. Others
> > might have different experiences.
>
> This has been my experience, as well. I've never sent a v6 with Junio
> as an explicit recipient, but which was otherwise identical to v5.
>
> Another reason to avoid sending v6 which is identical to v5 is that it
> potentially wastes reviewer bandwidth.
>
> The advice which seems to have triggered this particular discussion
> comes from Documentation/SubmittingPatches:
>
> After the list reached a consensus that it is a good idea to
> apply the patch, re-send it with "To:" set to the
> maintainer{current-maintainer} and "cc:" the list{git-ml} for
> inclusion. This is especially relevant when the maintainer did
> not heavily participate in the discussion and instead left the
> review to trusted others.
>
> It's not the first time this advice has resulted in confusion. Perhaps
> now would a good time to retire it altogether, or at least rewrite it
> to mention the points you gave above about responding to "What's
> Cooking" or by sending a "ping" to the original patch email (which may
> result in Junio either picking up the patch or responding with an
> explanation as to why he didn't).Agreed.
(Although sometimes a patch series of mine has actually received consensus, and yet for some reason Junio does not pick it up. Except in that case sending a v6 certainly would not improve the situation. Not sure if that's specific to me though.)
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> Following the above SubmittingPatches paragraph is another which also > seems to mislead people frequently: > > Do not forget to add trailers such as `Acked-by:`, `Reviewed-by:` > and `Tested-by:` lines as necessary to credit people who helped > your patch, and "cc:" them when sending such a final version for > inclusion. > > In fact, a submitter should almost never add a Reviewed-by: trailer > because Reviewed-by: is explicitly given by a reviewer only when the > reviewer is satisfied that the patch is merge-ready, in which case no > more re-rolls are expected. Instead, these particular trailers are > almost always added by Junio based upon reviewer responses he sees > when picking up a patch.
I don't fully agree with that comment.
At least me personally if I see people acking v5, I add them to v6 as Reviewed-By.
I'm not sure if that makes any difference to Junio, but that's what I've historically done.
Cheers.
-- Felipe Contreras