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Re: [PATCH] clone: in protocol v2, use remote's default branch

From
Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Date
Dec 14, 2020, 15:51 UTC
Message-ID
<5fd789e99119d_d21eb208c1@natae.notmuch>
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Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
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> On Fri, Dec 11 2020, Jonathan Tan wrote:
> 
> > When cloning an empty repository, a default branch is created. However,
> > it is named after the locally configured init.defaultBranch, not the
> > default branch of the remote repository.
> >
> > To solve this, the remote needs to communicate the target of the HEAD
> > symref, and "git clone" needs to use this information.
> >
> > Currently, symrefs that have unborn targets (such as in this case) are
> > not communicated by the protocol. Teach Git to advertise and support the
> > "unborn" feature in "ls-refs" (guarded by the lsrefs.unborn config).
> > This feature indicates that "ls-refs" supports the "unborn" argument;
> > when it is specified, "ls-refs" will send the HEAD symref with the name
> > of its unborn target.
> >
> > On the client side, Git will always send the "unborn" argument if it is
> > supported by the server. During "git clone", if cloning an empty
> > repository, Git will use the new information to determine the local
> > branch to create. In all other cases, Git will ignore it.
> 
> I'm not a fan of this change not because of the whole s/master/whatever/
> discussion, but because of the magic it adds for seemingly little gain &
> without any documentation.
I am against the master rename, and yet I am in favor of this patch.

I have been running git with "init.defaultbranch=foobar" to prepare myself to a future in which the Git project chooses an objectively inferior default branch name.

When I clone an empty repository, I expect the branch name to be chosen by the person who created that repository (not 'foobar'). If GitHub chooses to name the default branch "main", they can tell their users to always clone the empty repository, and the users don't need to be instructed to do anything else (like "git init -b main").

This way the Git project could follow a simple maxim:
  He who creates the repository chooses the master branch name

And this in addition offloads the burden on the Git project to choose a particular default branch name.

> So if I have init.defaultBranch explicitly set that'll be ignored on
> "clone", but on "init/git remote add/fetch" it won't?
It is already ignored on clone... except when the repository is empty.
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> I think so, and I swear I knew yesterday when I read this patch, but now
> I can't remember. Anyway, the point that I avoided re-reading the patch
> to find out, because even if there's an on-list answer to that it should
> really be documented because I'll forget it next week, and our users
> will never know :)

I think the patch does bring the expected behavior. The current behavior is the one that is unexpected, and has been unnoticed simply because most repositories use the name "master".

Some people would call that unexpected behavior a bug.
By removing the bug we don't have to document it.
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> This patch also leaves Documentation/config/init.txt untouched, and now
> under lsrefs.unborn it explicitly contradicts the behavior of git:
> 
>     Allows overriding the default branch name e.g. when initializing
>     a new repository or when cloning an empty repository.
That should be updated.
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> Shouldn't this at the very least be a
> init.defaultBranchFromRemote=<bool> which if set overrides
> init.defaultBranch? We could turn that to "true" by default and get the
> same behavior as you have here, but with less inexplicable magic for the
> user, no?

I don't think init.defaultbranch has lived long enough for people to rely on the "buggy" behavior.

> It seems if you're a user and wonder why a clone of a bare repo doesn't
> give you "init" defaults the only way you'll find out is
> GIT_TRACE_PACKET and the like.
Yeah, but who created that repository?

If you configure Git to use "master", and cloning a new repository from GitHub fetches "main", you know who to blame.

Let them take backlash.
I suspect they will eventually be forced to provide an option.
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> Another reason I'm not a fan of it is because it's another piece of
> magic "clone" does that you can't emulate in "init/fetch". We have
> e.g. --single-branch as an existing case of that (although you can at
> least do that with parse ls-remote -> init -> config -> fetch), and
> that's a case that doesn't fit into a refspec.
> 
> But shouldn't there at least be a corresponding "fetch" option? On init
> we'll create head, but "git fetch --clobber-my-idea-of-HEAD-with-remote
> ..."?
That would be better, yes.
But let's not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
> And on the "litte gain" side of things: I very much suspect that the
> only users who'll ever use this will be some big hosting providers (but
> maybe not, the commit doesn't suggest a use-case).
Yes, and that's enough reason.

I say let's offload the branch name decision to them, and let *them* deal with the fallback from their users.

> Wouldn't this be even more useful in those cases by just a pre-receive
> hook on their side detecting an initial push refusing "master", and:
But that's not what they want to do (I suspect).

They want the default branch name be "main", but still the user could rename the branch, do the initial commit, and push without problems.

Yes, it would take years to roll this change, but it also takes years for them to update their initial repository instructions too (they haven't included "git init -b main" yet).

Cheers.
-- 
Felipe Contreras
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  1. Jonathan TanDec 8, 2020
  2. Junio C HamanoDec 8, 2020
  3. brian m. carlsonDec 8, 2020
  4. Jonathan TanDec 8, 2020
  5. Junio C HamanoDec 8, 2020
  6. Jeff KingDec 8, 2020
  7. Jonathan TanDec 8, 2020
  8. Jeff KingDec 8, 2020
  9. clone: in protocol v2, use remote's default branchJonathan Tan, Dec 11, 2020
  10. Junio C HamanoDec 11, 2020
  11. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonDec 14, 2020
  12. Felipe ContrerasDec 14, 2020
  13. Junio C HamanoDec 14, 2020
  14. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonDec 15, 2020
  15. Junio C HamanoDec 15, 2020
  16. Jeff KingDec 15, 2020
  17. Junio C HamanoDec 15, 2020
  18. Jeff KingDec 15, 2020
  19. Junio C HamanoDec 16, 2020
  20. Jeff KingDec 16, 2020
  21. Junio C HamanoDec 16, 2020
  22. Jeff KingDec 18, 2020
  23. Felipe ContrerasDec 15, 2020
  24. Jonathan TanDec 14, 2020
  25. Felipe ContrerasDec 14, 2020
  26. Jeff KingDec 15, 2020
  27. Jonathan TanDec 15, 2020
  28. 0/3 Cloning with remote unborn HEADJonathan Tan, Dec 16, 2020
  29. 1/3 ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefsJonathan Tan, Dec 16, 2020
  30. Junio C HamanoDec 16, 2020
  31. Jonathan TanDec 16, 2020
  32. Jeff KingDec 16, 2020
  33. Jonathan TanDec 16, 2020
  34. Junio C HamanoDec 17, 2020
  35. Jeff KingDec 18, 2020
  36. 2/3 connect, transport: add no-op arg for future patchJonathan Tan, Dec 16, 2020
  37. Junio C HamanoDec 16, 2020
  38. 3/3 clone: respect remote unborn HEADJonathan Tan, Dec 16, 2020
  39. 0/3 Cloning with remote unborn HEADJonathan Tan, Dec 21, 2020
  40. 1/3 ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefsJonathan Tan, Dec 21, 2020
  41. 2/3 connect, transport: add no-op arg for future patchJonathan Tan, Dec 21, 2020
  42. 3/3 clone: respect remote unborn HEADJonathan Tan, Dec 21, 2020
  43. Junio C HamanoDec 21, 2020
  44. Jeff KingJan 21, 2021
  45. 0/3 Cloning with remote unborn HEADJonathan Tan, Dec 22, 2020
  46. 1/3 ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefsJonathan Tan, Dec 22, 2020
  47. Jeff KingJan 21, 2021
  48. Jonathan TanJan 26, 2021
  49. Jeff KingJan 26, 2021
  50. 2/3 connect, transport: add no-op arg for future patchJonathan Tan, Dec 22, 2020
  51. Jeff KingJan 21, 2021
  52. Jonathan TanJan 26, 2021
  53. 3/3 clone: respect remote unborn HEADJonathan Tan, Dec 22, 2020
  54. Jeff KingJan 21, 2021
  55. Jonathan TanJan 26, 2021
  56. Jeff KingJan 26, 2021
  57. Junio C HamanoJan 28, 2021
  58. Junio C HamanoDec 22, 2020
  59. 0/3 Cloning with remote unborn HEADJonathan Tan, Jan 26, 2021
  60. 1/3 ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefsJonathan Tan, Jan 26, 2021
  61. Junio C HamanoJan 26, 2021
  62. Jeff KingJan 26, 2021
  63. Junio C HamanoJan 26, 2021
  64. Junio C HamanoJan 26, 2021
  65. Jonathan TanJan 30, 2021
  66. Jonathan TanJan 29, 2021
  67. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2021
  68. Jonathan TanFeb 2, 2021
  69. Junio C HamanoFeb 2, 2021
  70. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJan 27, 2021
  71. Jonathan TanJan 30, 2021
  72. 2/3 connect, transport: encapsulate arg in structJonathan Tan, Jan 26, 2021
  73. Junio C HamanoJan 26, 2021
  74. Jonathan TanJan 30, 2021
  75. 3/3 clone: respect remote unborn HEADJonathan Tan, Jan 26, 2021
  76. Junio C HamanoJan 26, 2021
  77. Jonathan TanJan 30, 2021
  78. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJan 27, 2021
  79. Jonathan TanJan 30, 2021
  80. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJan 30, 2021
  81. Jonathan TanFeb 2, 2021
  82. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 3, 2021
  83. Junio C HamanoFeb 5, 2021
  84. Junio C HamanoJan 27, 2021
  85. Jeff KingJan 27, 2021
  86. Junio C HamanoJan 27, 2021
  87. 0/3 Cloning with remote unborn HEADJonathan Tan, Feb 2, 2021
  88. 1/3 ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefsJonathan Tan, Feb 2, 2021
  89. Junio C HamanoFeb 2, 2021
  90. Jonathan TanFeb 2, 2021
  91. Junio C HamanoFeb 2, 2021
  92. Jonathan TanFeb 3, 2021
  93. 2/3 connect, transport: encapsulate arg in structJonathan Tan, Feb 2, 2021
  94. 3/3 clone: respect remote unborn HEADJonathan Tan, Feb 2, 2021
  95. 0/3 Cloning with remote unborn HEADJonathan Tan, Feb 5, 2021
  96. 1/3 ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefsJonathan Tan, Feb 5, 2021
  97. Jeff KingFeb 5, 2021
  98. 2/3 connect, transport: encapsulate arg in structJonathan Tan, Feb 5, 2021
  99. 3/3 clone: respect remote unborn HEADJonathan Tan, Feb 5, 2021
  100. Junio C HamanoFeb 5, 2021
  101. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 5, 2021
  102. Junio C HamanoFeb 5, 2021
  103. Jeff KingFeb 5, 2021
  104. 0/3 Cloning with remote unborn HEADJonathan Tan, Feb 5, 2021
  105. 3/3 clone: respect remote unborn HEADJonathan Tan, Feb 5, 2021
  106. 2/3 connect, transport: encapsulate arg in structJonathan Tan, Feb 5, 2021
  107. 1/3 ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefsJonathan Tan, Feb 5, 2021
  108. Junio C HamanoFeb 6, 2021
  109. Junio C HamanoFeb 8, 2021

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