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Re: [PATCH] Try harder to find a remote when on a detached HEAD or non-tracking branch.

From
Marc Branchaud <marcnarc@xiplink.com>
Date
Jun 19, 2012, 21:43 UTC
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On 12-06-19 04:12 PM, Jeff King wrote:
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> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:55:13AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> 
>> Marc Branchaud <marcnarc@xiplink.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 12-06-18 06:12 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> That reliance of "origin" is what made me think that "not guessing
>>>> and blindly assuming" a wrong thing to do.
>>>
>>> I think git can do better than erroring out, though.
>>>
>>>> It is OK that your build usesdetached HEAD, but if that is the case
>>>> shoudln't it be the one deciding which specific remote it wants to
>>>> take the updated sources from, and telling Git to do so?
>>>
>>> Sure, but I feel it did that already when it cloned.  It seems reasonable for
>>> the submodules to default to using the remote specified when the super-repo
>>> was cloned.
>>
>> I do not have a strong opinion either way, other than that I would
>> prefer predictable behaviour over "works most of the time provided
>> if the user does X, otherwise does this random thing".  And coming
>> from that standpoint, erroring out when there needs a guess involved
>> is certainly more predictable---it is a cop-out option for me in
>> areas of the system I do not have strong preferences.
> 
> One thing that makes me nervous about this patch is that it is not just a
> change to git-submodule, but rather to git-parse-remote.  So it could
> affect other parts of the system, too, where a guess might not be as
> desirable.
> 
> The number of affected code paths is fortunately quite small, since this
> is updating the shell library, and most of the remote-handling code is
> written in C these days. But it raises a few questions:
> 
>   1. git-pull can call into get_default_remote via get_remote_merge_branch.
>      Is it impacted by this change?
I imagine it is.
>   2. We install git-parse-remote as part of the plumbing API. Do we know
>      of any other 3rd-party scripts that use this interface and might be
>      affected?
I certainly don't know of any.
>   3. The C code sets up remote.c:default_remote_name, which defaults to
>      "origin". Should this be consistent with what git-parse-remote
>      does?
Yes, I think it should.

I think you're raising some good points, but I'm not in a good position to evaluate the impacts on git-pull or 3rd-party apps.

I suggest git would be better off changing the way it finds the default remote to:

	Use the currently checked-out branch's remote;
	or Use the remote specified in the original clone command[*];
	or use "origin".
[*] With some strong mechanism for identifying this remote.

I think this would make the default-remote concept work properly in more cases, while still maintaining compatibility with current assumptions (because folks who are happy with the arbitrary choice of "origin" probably never used -o in their clone commands anyway).

I'd be fine with erroring-out (or just having no default remote) instead of using "origin", but I suspect that would cause more headaches than it solves.

I'm happy to cobble together a patch, if we agree to move in this direction.
		M.
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  1. Try harder to find a remote when on a detached HEAD or non-tracking branch.marcnarc@xiplink.com, Jun 18, 2012
  2. Junio C HamanoJun 18, 2012
  3. Marc BranchaudJun 18, 2012
  4. Junio C HamanoJun 18, 2012
  5. Marc BranchaudJun 19, 2012
  6. Junio C HamanoJun 19, 2012
  7. Heiko VoigtJun 19, 2012
  8. Marc BranchaudJun 19, 2012
  9. Heiko VoigtJun 20, 2012
  10. Jeff KingJun 19, 2012
  11. Junio C HamanoJun 19, 2012
  12. Marc BranchaudJun 19, 2012
  13. Jeff KingJun 19, 2012
  14. Junio C HamanoJun 19, 2012
  15. Jeff KingJun 19, 2012
  16. Junio C HamanoJun 19, 2012
  17. Jens LehmannJun 19, 2012
  18. Marc BranchaudJun 19, 2012
  19. Phil HordJun 20, 2012
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