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Re: RFC: a plugin architecture for git extensions?

From
Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se>
Date
Apr 28, 2011, 09:25 UTC
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On 04/28/2011 04:49 AM, Jon Seymour wrote:
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> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Jon Seymour<jon.seymour@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Then a command like:
>>
>>     git install gitwork
>>
>> would trivially work across all distributions precisely because the
>> distribution has provided the implementation of the git install
>> interface contract that git-core has helpfully mandated.
>>
> 
> Or better yet, git-core could provide a trivial git install
> implementation that selects between different distribution manager
> supplied plugins selected according to some heuristic, allowing
> several distribution managers to happily manage plugins in the same
> git instance.
> 
> I have to ask.
> 
> Is such an architecture really "absolutely horrid"? Is it  "crap"? Really?
> 

Yes, because it forces all distributions to name their extensions the same and it forces all distributions to carry the same extensions. It also makes it impossible to support 3rd party extensions that core git doesn't know about and that aren't already packaged, unless you want the "git install" command to have knowledge about all package management systems and *very, very good* heuristics when guessing what a particular extension is called on that system.

What will happen though is that the distributions will happily ignore that and the "git install" command will fail for some extensions on some distributions.

Besides that, it forces users to install git from their distribution packages so we're hard-shafting the git developers who usually have at least some installations done from source.

We just went far beyond "absolutely horrid" and into the realms of "steaming pile of abominably manure-like ideas whose inventor should be slapped silly for their own good".

So let's get back to the basic wish you have here. You want people to be able to easily find, download and install "git work" so that it works nicely with man-pages and all.

The wiki-page with known extensions and the patch to core git so that "make install" can put man-pages in the right directory are the first, simplest and smallest steps that takes us the farthest towards that wish without burdening people you have no control over with more labor. In short; It's both good engineering and polite to implement that and then consider what new possibilities open up and see what people do with those possibilities. You might be surprised.

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