Re: is gitosis secure?
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martin <martin@siamect.com>
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- Dec 14, 2008, 11:02 UTC
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david@lang.hm wrote:
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> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008, martin wrote: > >> Dear David. >> Why do you trust VPN more than the SSH? >> I ask because I have just removed the "first VPN then SSH" solution >> in favor for a SSH only solution using Gitosis just to get rid of the >> VPN which I believe is less secure than SSH (well until I read you >> comments below). >> I thought I was doing something right for once but maybe I'm not? >> Thanks and best regards >> Martin > > in part it's that a VPN is a single point of control for all remote > access. > > If you use ssh you end up exposing all the individual machines > > 1. data leakage of just what machines exist to possibly hostile users. > > 2. the many machines are configured seperatly, frequently by different > people. this makes it far more likely that sometime some machine will > get misconfigured. > > 3. people who are focused on providing features have a strong > temptation to cut corners and just test that the feature works and not > test that everything that isn't supposed to work actually doesn't > work. as a result, in many companies there is a deliberate seperation > (and tension) between a group focused on controlling and auditing > access and one that is focused on creating fucntionality and features. > > also from a polical/social point of view everyone recognises that if > you grant someone VPN access you are trusting them, but people don't > seem to think the same way with ssh. > > David Lang >
I opened port 22 in the firewall to just those hosts that I need to reach, which is one in this case...the rest of the machines I cannot reach. I did a brief port scan and the thing is silent... so I don't think I reveal any of the other hosts... but I should not say is it's secure with your measures...
Your point two I don't understand... If you are in charge of the firewall you also know what machines you let people reach. If these machines are numerous then I think there is a management problem somewhere else...
Point 3 is correct but I fail to see how this is less of a problem with VPN than SSH.
Thanks and Best regards Martin