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Re: [PATCH RFC] rebase: respect --ff-only option

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PWPhillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>
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Jul 5, 2021, 13:54 UTC
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Hi Junio
On 05/07/2021 10:58, Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> As I understand it the motivation for this change is to have 'git -c
>> pull.rebase=true pull --ff-only' actually fast forward. Why cant we
>> just change pull not to rebase in that case?
>> ...
>> Is there a use for this outside of 'git pull --ff-only'? I'm far from
>> convinced we want this new option but if we do end up adding it I
>> think it should error out in combination with '-i' or '-x' as '-i'
>> implies the user wants to change the existing commits and '-x' can end
>> up changing them as well.
>>
>> I think this patch addresses a valid problem but it seems to me that
>> the approach taken pushes complexity into rebase to handle a case when
>> pull does not need to invoke rebase in the first place.
> 
> I share the sentiment, but my conclusion would be different.
> 
> Even though we explain that "pull" is _like_ "fetch" followed by
> "merge" (or "rebase"), at the conceptual level, "pull --ff-only"
> should not have to invoke merge or rebase backend.  If the branch
> fast-fowards to the fetched tip, "pull" should be able to just
> update the branch and check it out, and if it doesn't, "pull" should
> just be able to fail.
> 
> Similarly, "pull --ff" (i.e. fast-forwading allowed) should be able
> to just update the branch and check it out when the current tip of
> the branch can be fast-forwarded to the fetched tip.
> 
> But as you said, pull.rebase=interactive will break such a clean
> separation of concerns.  You can leave "pull" oblivious of what
> "rebase -i" wants to do when seeing a fast-forwardable history by
> teaching "rebase" (and "merge") backend to take "--ff-only", "--ff",
> and "--no-ff" options and having "pull" pass them through.

My main concern with the new rebase option was about a user invoking 'git rebase -i --ff-only' directly.

If a user has pull.rebase=interactive and runs 'git pull --ff-only' then I'm not clear what they expect to happen. Assuming we can fast-forward would they expect pull to run 'rebase -i' which would open their editor with the todo list or would they expect that '--ff-only' means "I just want to fast-forward, I don't want to run 'rebase -i'". If it is the latter then we can just invoke 'git merge --ff-only' (so long as we don't mind running the post-merge hook in this case) and not worry about adding more complexity to 'git rebase'

The relevant section of the pull man page only talks about merging in relation to --ff-only

     --ff, --no-ff, --ff-only
	Specifies how a merge is handled when the merged-in history
         is already a descendant of the current history.  --ff is the
         default unless merging an annotated (and possibly signed)
         tag that is not stored in its natural place in the
         refs/tags/ hierarchy, in which case --no-ff is assumed.
         With --ff, when possible resolve the merge as a fast-forward
         (only update the branch pointer to match the merged branch;
         do not create a merge commit). When not possible (when the
         merged-in history is not a descendant of the current
         history), create a merge commit.
	With --no-ff, create a merge commit in all cases, even when
	the merge could instead be resolved as a fast-forward.
	With --ff-only, resolve the merge as a fast-forward when
	possible. When not possible, refuse to merge and exit with a
	non-zero status.
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> We can teach "pull" that certain backends (namely "rebase -i" in
> this case) want to handle "ff logic" [*] themselves, and other
> backends (i.e. "rebase" and "merge") do not mind if "pull" handles
> "ff logic" for them, but that will break the abstraction (e.g. do we
> really want to teach "pull" that "rebase -i" wants to rewrite all
> the commits even when the history fast-forwards?) and will become a
> source of duplicated logic.
> 
> Another thing to worry about are hooks.  post-rebase 

There is no post-rebase hook. There is the post-rewrite hook, I haven't checked if we invoke it with no input of skip it entirely when we fast-forward.

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> or post-merge
> operations would want to be carried out even when the history would
> fast-forward, and making "pull" to perform the fast-forwarding and
> know which hooks should be called with what parameter so that we
> could pretend as if the "merge" or "rebase" backend was indeed ran,
> breaks the abstraction.
> 
> So, even though I wish that the world was simpler and we could
> handle "ff logic" inside "pull", I am not sure if it is a realistic
> wish.

I think if we decide that 'pull --ff-only' always implies merging then the world stays fairly simple. On the other hand if we want to somehow combine rebasing with --ff-only it will be more complicated. If we go for the latter then unless someone comes up with a good use for 'rebase --ff-only' in another context I would prefer the new rebase option to be marked with PARSE_OPT_HIDDEN and that we also avoid making incidental changes the existing rebase options.

Best Wishes
Phillip
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> 
> [Footnote]
> 
> * By "ff logic", I am referring to what should happen in the 3x2=6
>    matrix when one of ("--ff", "--ff-only", or "--no-ff") is given
>    and the history (does or does not) fast-forward.
> 
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  1. rebase: respect --ff-only optionAlex Henrie, Jul 5, 2021
  2. Phillip WoodJul 5, 2021
  3. Junio C HamanoJul 5, 2021
  4. Felipe ContrerasJul 5, 2021
  5. Phillip WoodJul 5, 2021
  6. Felipe ContrerasJul 7, 2021
  7. Phillip WoodJul 5, 2021
  8. Junio C HamanoJul 5, 2021
  9. Junio C HamanoJul 5, 2021
  10. Alex HenrieJul 5, 2021
  11. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJul 6, 2021
  12. Phillip WoodJul 6, 2021
  13. Felipe ContrerasJul 7, 2021
  14. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJul 5, 2021
  15. Felipe ContrerasJul 5, 2021

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