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Re: [PATCH] SubmittingPatches: spell out "replace fully to pretend to be perfect"

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KHKristoffer Haugsbakk <kristofferhaugsbakk@fastmail.com>
Date
Mar 9, 2026, 23:19 UTC
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On Mon, Mar 9, 2026, at 23:15, Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> It unfortunately is a recurring theme that new developers tend to
> pile more "fixup" patches on top of the already reviewed patches,
> making the topic longer and keeping the history of all wrong turns,
> which interests nobody in the larger picture.  Even picking a narrow
> search in the list archive for "pretend to be a perfect " substring,
> we find these:
>
>     https://lore.kernel.org/git/xmqqk29bsz2o.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com/
>     https://lore.kernel.org/git/xmqqd0ds5ysq.fsf@gitster-ct.c.googlers.com/
>     https://lore.kernel.org/git/xmqqr173faez.fsf@gitster.g/
>
> The SubmittingPatches guide does talk about going incremental once a
> topic hits the 'next' branch, but it does not say much about how a
> new iteration of the topic should be prepared before that happens,
> and it does not mention that the developers are encouraged to seize
> the opportunity to pretend to be perfect with a full replacement set
> of patches.
>
> Add a new paragraph to stress on this in the section that describes
s/stress on this/stress this point/ ?
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> the life-cycle of a patch series.
>
> Signed-off-by: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
> ---
>  cf. https://lore.kernel.org/git/xmqqo6kw3bjp.fsf@gitster.g/
>
>  Documentation/SubmittingPatches | 12 ++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git c/Documentation/SubmittingPatches w/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
> index e270ccbe85..f6ec8a3dde 100644
> --- c/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
> +++ w/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
> @@ -43,6 +43,18 @@ help you find out who they are.
>    respond to them with "Reply-All" on the mailing list, while taking
>    them into account while preparing an updated set of patches.
>
> +. These early update iterations are expected to be full replacements,
> +  not incremental updates on top of what you posted already.  If you
> +  are correcting mistakes you made in the previous iteration that a
> +  reviewer noticed and pointed out in their review, you _fix_ that
> +  mistake by rewriting your history (e.g., by using "git rebase -i")
> +  to pretend that you never made the mistake in the first place.  IOW,
Spell out “In other words”.
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> +  this is a chance to pretend to be a perfect developer, and you are
> +  expected to take advantage of that.  In the larger picture, nobody
> +  is interested in your earlier mistakes.  Just present a logical
> +  progression made by a perfect developer who makes no mistakes while
> +  working on the topic.
> +
Looks good.
>  . Polish, refine, and re-send your patches to the list and to the people
>    who spent their time to improve your patch.  Go back to step (2).
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