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Re: [PATCH v2] xmmap: inform Linux users of tuning knobs on ENOMEM

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EWEric Wong <e@80x24.org>
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Jun 30, 2021, 10:07 UTC
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Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
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> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:01:32AM +0000, Eric Wong wrote:
> 
> > This series is now down to a single patch.
> > 
> > I wanted to make things more transparent to users without
> > privileges to raise sys.vm.max_map_count and/or RLIMIT_DATA;
> > but it doesn't seem possible to account for libc/zlib/etc. doing
> > mmap() without our knowledge (usually via malloc).
> 
> Oh, I should have read this one before reviewing the inner parts of v1. :)
> 
> In general I agree that trying to manage our map count can never be
> foolproof. As you note, other parts of the system may contribute to that
> count. But even within Git, we don't have any mechanism for unmapping
> many non-packfiles. So if you have 30,000 packs, you may hit the limit
> purely via the .idx files (and ditto for the new .rev files, and
> probably commit-graph files, etc).

Yeah, the most annoying thing with my original series was when I hit "inflate: out of memory" once I stopped xmmap from dying. I suspect that would be a worse far error message for users who aren't familiar with how malloc works.

> That said, I'm not opposed to handling xmmap() failures more gracefully,
> as your series did. It's not foolproof, but it might help in some cases.

I've also been wondering if we can maintain a watermark based on reading the contents of /proc/sys/vm/max_map_count and the mappings we make. Then we could start dropping mappings when we hit half (or some other threshold) of that sysctl. Similar for RLIMIT_DATA (though that defaults to unlimited on my Debian system).

OTOH, I also wonder if we're overusing mmap when we could be just as well served with pread.

I'm not up-to-date on modern mmap performance and maybe CPU vulnerability mitigations nowadays make mmap more compelling. However, once upon a time in 2006, pread could be a hair quicker:

https://lore.kernel.org/git/Pine.LNX.4.64.0612182234260.3479@woody.osdl.org/T/#u (But that info could be out-of-date...)

I'm also somewhat paranoid when it comes to mmap since rogue processes could be truncating mmap-ed files to cause bus errors.

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> > So I think giving users some information to feed their sysadmins
> > is the best we can do in this situation:
> 
> This seems OK to me, too. Translators might complain a bit about the
> message-lego. I don't have a strong opinion.

*shrug* I saw my original patches already ended up in `seen' (commit 7b79212a93c375365c06cab5c0018ab97a4185cf)

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  1. 0/4 gracefully handling mmap failuresEric Wong, Jun 29, 2021
  2. 2/4 map_loose_object_1: attempt to handle ENOMEM from mmapEric Wong, Jun 29, 2021
  3. Jeff KingJun 30, 2021
  4. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJun 30, 2021
  5. 1/4 use_pack: attempt to handle ENOMEM from mmapEric Wong, Jun 29, 2021
  6. Jeff KingJun 30, 2021
  7. 3/4 check_packed_git_idx: attempt to handle ENOMEM from mmapEric Wong, Jun 29, 2021
  8. 3/4 check_packed_git_idx: attempt to handle ENOMEM from mmapEric Wong, Jun 29, 2021
  9. Junio C HamanoJun 29, 2021
  10. Eric WongJun 29, 2021
  11. 4/4 xmmap: inform Linux users of tuning knobs on ENOMEMEric Wong, Jun 29, 2021
  12. xmmap: inform Linux users of tuning knobs on ENOMEMEric Wong, Jun 30, 2021
  13. Jeff KingJun 30, 2021
  14. Eric WongJun 30, 2021
  15. Jeff KingJun 30, 2021

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