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Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] Multiple hook support

From
Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Date
May 16, 2019, 04:51 UTC
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<20190516045140.GA7241@sigill.intra.peff.net>
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<20190514015928.GG7458@genre.crustytoothpaste.net>
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 01:59:28AM +0000, brian m. carlson wrote:
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> There are two aspects here which I think are worth discussing. Let's
> discuss the inheritance issue first.
> 
> Order with multiple hooks matters. The best hook as an example for this
> is prepare-commit-msg. If I have a hook which I want to run on every
> repository, such as a hook that inserts some sort of ID (bug tracker,
> Gerrit, etc.), that hook, due to inheritance, *has* to be first, before
> any other prepare-commit-msg hooks. If I want a hook that runs before
> it, perhaps because a particular repository needs a different
> configuration, I have to wipe the list and insert both hooks. I'm now
> maintaining two separate locations for the command lines instead of just
> inserting a symlink to the global hook and dropping a new hook before
> it.

This part confuses me. In the config based scheme you describe, you have to mention the original hook again. But isn't that exactly what creating a symlink in your hooks directory is doing?

And in fact, I think a config based scheme can be a lot more flexible in the end, simply because the parser _does_ see all of the hooks (whereas in the hook directory scheme, we only ever look in one directory). So we can have an option to sort them before running: alphabetically, system-to-repo order, repo-to-system order, etc.

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> The second issue here is that it's surprising. Users don't know how to
> reset a configuration option because we don't have a consistent way to
> do that. Users will not expect for there to be multiple ways to set
> hooks. Users will also not expect that their hooks in their
> configuration aren't run if there are hooks in .git/hooks. Tooling that
> has so far used .git/hooks will compete with users' global configuration
> options, which I guarantee you will be a surprise for users using older
> versions of tools.

I don't agree here. If the rule is "config takes precedence", and "if config is absent "behave as if .git/hooks/whatever was in the config", then the transition is easy to explain. And nobody sees any change at all until they decide to set the config. It would probably also be prudent to issue a warning if there's config _and_ an on-disk hook file (or even run them both, though then you open up the question of ordering).

Which isn't to say it's impossible for a person to get confused (new tool sets the config, disabling their old hook?). But I think any transition to multi-hook support (including your directory scheme) is going to have some possibility that tools automatically setting things up behind the scenes is going to confuse a user.

> It also provides a convenient place for hooks to live, which a
> config-based option doesn't. We'll need to invoke things using /bin/sh,
> so will they all have to live in PATH? What about one-offs that don't
> really belong in PATH?

Actually, my biggest beef with the current hooks mechanism is that it's an _inconvenient_ place for them to live.

  - it's not version controlled, and putting a repository inside another
    repository is awkward (though it at least works for the bare case)
  - touching the filesystem is awkward and expensive if you have a large
    number of repositories whose hooks you want to update
  - it requires a manual step to modify the filesystem after a fresh
    clone (as opposed to putting things in ~/.gitconfig). Technically
    one can solve this by modifying .../share/git/templates, but that
    has its own issues.

In my world-view config-based hooks would just be run with SHELL_PATH, just like our other config options. If you don't want one-offs in your PATH, then use absolute paths (just like you would have to for symlinks). If you really don't know where to put one-off hooks, perhaps we could document a base directory from which the hook script is run, and you could put it in a directory in .git and use a relative path? You could even call that directory "hooks", but I suspect that would be too confusing. :)

-Peff
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Message 33 of 34 in “Multiple hook support”
  1. 0/7 Multiple hook supportbrian m. carlson, May 14, 2019
  2. 1/7 run-command: add preliminary support for multiple hooksbrian m. carlson, May 14, 2019
  3. Duy NguyenMay 14, 2019
  4. brian m. carlsonMay 15, 2019
  5. brian m. carlsonMay 29, 2019
  6. Johannes SchindelinMay 14, 2019
  7. brian m. carlsonMay 15, 2019
  8. Johannes SixtMay 16, 2019
  9. Johannes SchindelinMay 17, 2019
  10. 2/7 builtin/receive-pack: add support for multiple hooksbrian m. carlson, May 14, 2019
  11. 3/7 rebase: add support for multiple hooksbrian m. carlson, May 14, 2019
  12. Duy NguyenMay 14, 2019
  13. Johannes SixtMay 14, 2019
  14. brian m. carlsonMay 15, 2019
  15. Duy NguyenMay 16, 2019
  16. 3/7 sequencer: add support for multiple hooksbrian m. carlson, May 14, 2019
  17. 4/7 builtin/worktree: add support for multiple post-checkout hooksbrian m. carlson, May 14, 2019
  18. 5/7 transport: add support for multiple pre-push hooksbrian m. carlson, May 14, 2019
  19. 6/7 config: allow configuration of multiple hook error behaviorbrian m. carlson, May 14, 2019
  20. Duy NguyenMay 14, 2019
  21. brian m. carlsonMay 15, 2019
  22. Jeff KingMay 16, 2019
  23. Jeff KingMay 16, 2019
  24. brian m. carlsonMay 16, 2019
  25. Jeff KingMay 16, 2019
  26. 7/7 docs: document multiple hooksbrian m. carlson, May 14, 2019
  27. Duy NguyenMay 14, 2019
  28. Jonathan NiederMay 14, 2019
  29. brian m. carlsonMay 14, 2019
  30. Jonathan NiederMay 14, 2019
  31. brian m. carlsonMay 16, 2019
  32. Jonathan NiederMay 16, 2019
  33. Jeff KingMay 16, 2019
  34. Duy NguyenMay 14, 2019

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