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Re: [PATCHv3 02/11] run-command: report failure for degraded output just once

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Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Date
Nov 5, 2015, 06:51 UTC
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On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 06:05:17PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> I've always assumed that the original reason why we wanted to set
> the fd to nonblock was because poll(2) only tells us there is
> something to read (even a single byte), and the xread_nonblock()
> call strbuf_read_once() makes with the default size of 8KB is
> allowed to consume all available bytes and then get stuck waiting
> for the remainder of 8KB before returning.
> 
> If the read(2) in xread_nonblock() always returns as soon as we
> receive as much as there is data available without waiting for any
> more, ignoring the size of the buffer (rather, taking the size of
> the buffer only as the upper bound), then there is no need for
> nonblock anywhere.

This latter paragraph was my impression of how pipe reading generally worked, for blocking or non-blocking. That is, if there is data, both cases return what we have (up to the length specified by the user), and it is only when there is _no_ data that we might choose to block.

It's easy to verify experimentally. E.g.:
  perl -e 'while(1) { syswrite(STDOUT, "a", 1); sleep(1); }' |
  strace perl -e 'while(1) { sysread(STDIN, my $buf, 1024) }'

should show a series of 1-byte reads. But of course that only shows that it works on my system[1], not everywhere.

POSIX implies it is the case in the definition of read[2] in two ways:
  1. The O_NONBLOCK behavior for pipes is mentioned only when dealing
     with empty pipes.
  2. Later, it says:
       The value returned may be less than nbyte if the number of bytes
       left in the file is less than nbyte, if the read() request was
       interrupted by a signal, or if the file is a pipe or FIFO or
       special file and has fewer than nbyte bytes immediately available
       for reading.
     That is not explicit, but the "immediately" there seems to imply
     it.
> So perhaps the original reasoning of doing nonblock was faulty, you
> are saying?

Exactly. And therefore a convenient way to deal with the portability issue is to get rid of it. :)

-Peff
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Message 10 of 34 in “[PATCHv3 00/11] Expose the submodule parallelism to the user”
  1. Stefan BellerNov 4, 2015
  2. 01/11 run_processes_parallel: delimit intermixed task outputStefan Beller, Nov 4, 2015
  3. 02/11 run-command: report failure for degraded output just onceStefan Beller, Nov 4, 2015
  4. Junio C HamanoNov 4, 2015
  5. Stefan BellerNov 4, 2015
  6. Johannes SixtNov 4, 2015
  7. Junio C HamanoNov 4, 2015
  8. Jeff KingNov 4, 2015
  9. Junio C HamanoNov 5, 2015
  10. Jeff KingNov 5, 2015
  11. Junio C HamanoNov 5, 2015
  12. Stefan BellerNov 5, 2015
  13. Junio C HamanoNov 4, 2015
  14. Stefan BellerNov 4, 2015
  15. Junio C HamanoNov 4, 2015
  16. Stefan BellerNov 4, 2015
  17. 03/11 run-command: omit setting file descriptors to non blocking in WindowsStefan Beller, Nov 4, 2015
  18. 04/11 submodule-config: keep update strategy aroundStefan Beller, Nov 4, 2015
  19. 05/11 submodule-config: drop check against NULLStefan Beller, Nov 4, 2015
  20. 06/11 submodule-config: remove name_and_item_from_varStefan Beller, Nov 4, 2015
  21. 07/11 submodule-config: introduce parse_generic_submodule_configStefan Beller, Nov 4, 2015
  22. 08/11 fetching submodules: respect `submodule.jobs` config optionStefan Beller, Nov 4, 2015
  23. Jens LehmannNov 10, 2015
  24. Stefan BellerNov 10, 2015
  25. Jens LehmannNov 11, 2015
  26. Stefan BellerNov 11, 2015
  27. Jens LehmannNov 13, 2015
  28. Stefan BellerNov 13, 2015
  29. 09/11 git submodule update: have a dedicated helper for cloningStefan Beller, Nov 4, 2015
  30. 10/11 submodule update: expose parallelism to the userStefan Beller, Nov 4, 2015
  31. 11/11 clone: allow an explicit argument for parallel submodule clonesStefan Beller, Nov 4, 2015
  32. Junio C HamanoNov 4, 2015
  33. Stefan BellerNov 4, 2015
  34. Junio C HamanoNov 4, 2015

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