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Re: [PATCH] Documentation/CommunityGuidelines

From
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Date
Jun 12, 2013, 12:27 UTC
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On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 06:19:23PM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote:
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> Fair? Fairness requires to judge each action without biases, nor
> double standards. In the case of an open source community it requires
> you to listen to the arguments before dismissing them, and consider
> the patches before dropping them on the floor. Fairness requires no
> favoritism.

At least in development communities that *I* run, if someone were as rude to me as you have been in some previous exchanges to Junio, I would have set the bozo bit a long time ago and reviewed your submissions with a very jaudiced eye, and treated your non-technical arguments with same amount of attention as I give madmen and drunkards in the street. Junio has given you *far* more latitude than I would have.

Keep in mind, the demands for respect go in both directions, and in non-technical matters about style and "good taste", at the end of the day the maintainer does get to have the final say, because he or she is the one who applies the patches or accepts the pull request. So if the maintainer says something like, "maintaining ABI backwards compatibility for libext2fs (or for kernel syscalls) is critically important", that's not up to you. Sending me abusive e-mails about how I'm not listening to your arguments isn't going to help. You can try to change my mind with reasoned arguments, but for questions like that, or what functions do or don't belong in a library, the maintainer is the benevolent dictator.

Things a very different for things like "this change causes a 30% performance regression in a particular workload". For those sorts of technical questions, a much more collaborative discussion style is important. But for questions of what is and isn't "good taste", it's not a good idea to reply to a maintainer's e-mail with "that's your opinion" over and over again. For things like that it *IS* his (or her) opinion, and if you can't live with it, you'll save a lot of bandwidth on the mailing list by moving on to some other project.

Regards,
					- Ted
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Message 53 of 63 in “Documentation/CommunityGuidelines”
  1. Documentation/CommunityGuidelinesRamkumar Ramachandra, Jun 10, 2013
  2. Célestin MatteJun 10, 2013
  3. Matthieu MoyJun 10, 2013
  4. Robin H. JohnsonJun 10, 2013
  5. Junio C HamanoJun 10, 2013
  6. Jonathan NiederJun 10, 2013
  7. Ramkumar RamachandraJun 10, 2013
  8. A Large Angry SCMJun 10, 2013
  9. Ramkumar RamachandraJun 10, 2013
  10. A Large Angry SCMJun 10, 2013
  11. Felipe ContrerasJun 11, 2013
  12. Ramkumar RamachandraJun 11, 2013
  13. Michael HaggertyJun 11, 2013
  14. Felipe ContrerasJun 11, 2013
  15. Ramkumar RamachandraJun 11, 2013
  16. Felipe ContrerasJun 11, 2013
  17. Thomas RastJun 11, 2013
  18. Ramkumar RamachandraJun 11, 2013
  19. Michael HaggertyJun 11, 2013
  20. Felipe ContrerasJun 11, 2013
  21. Ramkumar RamachandraJun 11, 2013
  22. Michael HaggertyJun 11, 2013
  23. Ramkumar RamachandraJun 11, 2013
  24. Junio C HamanoJun 11, 2013
  25. Felipe ContrerasJun 11, 2013
  26. Felipe ContrerasJun 11, 2013
  27. Brandon CaseyJun 11, 2013
  28. Theodore Ts'oJun 12, 2013
  29. Ramkumar RamachandraJun 12, 2013
  30. Felipe ContrerasJun 12, 2013
  31. Felipe ContrerasJun 11, 2013
  32. Thomas RastJun 11, 2013
  33. Felipe ContrerasJun 11, 2013
  34. Thomas RastJun 11, 2013
  35. Felipe ContrerasJun 11, 2013
  36. Junio C HamanoJun 11, 2013
  37. Michael HaggertyJun 11, 2013
  38. John KeepingJun 11, 2013
  39. Ramkumar RamachandraJun 11, 2013
  40. John KeepingJun 11, 2013
  41. Ramkumar RamachandraJun 12, 2013
  42. John KeepingJun 12, 2013
  43. Michael HaggertyJun 11, 2013
  44. John KeepingJun 11, 2013
  45. Philip OakleyJun 11, 2013
  46. John SzakmeisterJun 12, 2013
  47. Jakub NarebskiJun 12, 2013
  48. Philip OakleyJun 12, 2013
  49. Felipe ContrerasJun 11, 2013
  50. Jeff KingJun 11, 2013
  51. Junio C HamanoJun 11, 2013
  52. Felipe ContrerasJun 11, 2013
  53. Theodore Ts'oJun 12, 2013
  54. Felipe ContrerasJun 12, 2013
  55. Ramkumar RamachandraJun 12, 2013
  56. Junio C HamanoJun 12, 2013
  57. Michael HaggertyJun 13, 2013
  58. Junio C HamanoJun 13, 2013
  59. Felipe ContrerasJun 11, 2013
  60. Ramkumar RamachandraJun 11, 2013
  61. Thomas AdamJun 13, 2013
  62. Felipe ContrerasJun 13, 2013
  63. Christian CouderJun 14, 2013

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