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Re: feature suggestion: optimize common parts for checkout --conflict=diff3

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Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Date
Mar 7, 2013, 18:01 UTC
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On Thu, Mar 07, 2013 at 09:26:05AM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> Without thinking about it too deeply,...
> 
> I think the "RCS merge" _could_ show it as "1234A<B=X>C<D=Y>E789"
> without losing any information (as it is already discarding what was
> in the original in the part that is affected by the conflict,
> i.e. "56 was there").
Right, I think that is sane, though we do not do that at this point.
> Let's think aloud how "diff3 -m" _should_ split this. The most
> straight-forward representation would be "1234<ABCDE|56=AXCYE>789",
> that is, where "56" was originally there, one side made it to
> "ABCDE" and the other "AXCYE".

Yes, that is what diff3 would do now (because it does not do any hunk refinement at all), and should continue doing.

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> You could make it "1234<AB|5=AX><C|=C><DE|6=YE>789", and that is
> technically correct (what there were in the shared original for the
> conflicted part is 5 and then 6), but the representation pretends
> that it knows more than there actually is information, which may be
> somewhat misleading.  All these three are equally plausible split of
> the original "56":
> 
> 	1234<AB|=AX><C|=C><DE|56=YE>789
> 	1234<AB|5=AX><C|=C><DE|6=YE>789
> 	1234<AB|56=AX><C|=C><DE|=YE>789
> 
> and picking one over others would be a mere heuristic.  All three
> are technically correct representations and it is just the matter of
> which one is the easiest to understand.  So, this is the kind of
> "misleading but not incorrect".

Yes, I agree it is a heuristic about which part of a split hunk to place deleted preimage lines in. Conceptually, I'm OK with that; the point of zdiff3 is to try to make the conflict easier to read by eliminating possibly uninteresting parts. It doesn't have to be right all the time; it just has to be useful most of the time. But it's not clear how true that would be in real life.

I think this is somewhat a moot point, though. We do not do this splitting now. If we later learn to do it, there is nothing to say that zdiff3 would have to adopt it also; it could stop at a lower zealous-level than the regular merge markers. I think I'd want to experiment with it and see some real-world examples before making a decision on that.

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> In all these cases, the middle part would look like this:
> 
> 	<<<<<<< ours
>         C
>         ||||||| base
>         =======
> 	C
>         >>>>>>> theirs
> 
> in order to honor the explicit "I want to view all three versions to
> examine the situation" aka "--conflict=diff3" option.  We cannot
> reduce it to just "C".  That will make it "not just misleading but
> is actively wrong".

I'm not sure I agree. In this output (which does the zealous simplification, the splitting, and arbitrarily assigns deleted preimage to the first of the split hunks):

  1234A<B|56=X>C<D|Y>E789

I do not see the promotion of C to "already resolved, you cannot tell if it was really in the preimage or not" as any more or less misleading or wrong than that of A or E. It is no more misleading than what the merge-marker case would do, which would be:

  1234A<B=X>C<D=Y>E789

The wrong thing to me is the arbitrary choice about how to distribute the preimage lines. In this example, it is not a big deal for the heuristic to be wrong; you can see both of the hunks. But if C is long, and you do not even see D=Y while resolving B=X, seeing the preimage there may become nonsensical.

But again, we don't do this splitting now. So I don't think it's something that should make or break a decision to have zdiff3. Without the splitting, I can see it being quite useful. I'm going to carry the patch in my tree for a while and try using it in practice for a while.

-Peff
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  1. Uwe Kleine-KönigMar 6, 2013
  2. Antoine PelisseMar 6, 2013
  3. Antoine PelisseMar 6, 2013
  4. Jeff KingMar 6, 2013
  5. xdiff: implement a zealous diff3Uwe Kleine-König, Mar 6, 2013
  6. Jeff KingMar 6, 2013
  7. Junio C HamanoMar 6, 2013
  8. Jeff KingMar 6, 2013
  9. Junio C HamanoMar 6, 2013
  10. Jeff KingMar 6, 2013
  11. Junio C HamanoMar 6, 2013
  12. Jeff KingMar 7, 2013
  13. Uwe Kleine-KönigMar 6, 2013
  14. Junio C HamanoMar 6, 2013
  15. Jeff KingMar 7, 2013
  16. Junio C HamanoMar 7, 2013
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  19. Jeff KingMar 7, 2013
  20. Jeff KingApr 4, 2013
  21. Uwe Kleine-KönigApr 4, 2013
  22. Jeff KingApr 4, 2013
  23. Junio C HamanoApr 4, 2013
  24. Junio C HamanoMar 7, 2013

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