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Re: Separate default remotes for pulling and pushing

From
Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Date
May 9, 2011, 22:04 UTC
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<20110509220459.GA3719@sigill.intra.peff.net>
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On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 09:45:49AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
> 
> >   4. Decentralized, you're a developer that publishes work via git. You
> >      call the upstream maintainer "origin", so fetches are convenient
> >      (and git does this for you at clone, after all). But pushing, even
> >      though you probably always push to the same central, does not have
> >      a convenient shorthand.
> >
> >      This is David's case (and mine, and I suspect some other git
> >      developers who do enough work that they want to make it publicly
> >      available via git, or even just have backups). It's also encouraged
> >      by sites like github, where you might clone the upstream's
> >      repository, but then pushes your changes up to a personal "fork"
> >      to let others see and merge them.
> 
> In a sense, this is what I do as well.  As you mentioned, I push to "ko"
> to publish, but when I "fetch" (or "pull") from "origin", I get the public
> copy I have at kernel.org like everybody else, and I do fetch every time
> after I push to "ko" to get the updated preformatted HTML and man page
> branches.

Interesting. Is your fetch from "ko" a no-op, or are you using it to syncrhonize development between different machines?

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> While I see why some people might want to say "origin" for both in such a
> set-up (when they do not push to multiple places like I do), I have a
> feeling that it is a misguided wish that would make themselves unnecessary
> confused than they already are, especially if the repositories used for
> pushing and fetching are in reality different repositories (one good
> example why it would be confusing is how remote tracking branches are
> updated).

I think it is important to note that calling them both "origin" is definitely the wrong thing. The proposal is instead that "git push" without a remote would default to something besides "origin". For people who publish multiple places, it might even make sense for it to be an iterative push to each place.

But this is all definitely a minor convenience. It is not that world-shattering to type "git push my-fork", nor "git push my-fork && git push my-backup". Probably twice a week I accidentally try to push to "git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/git/git.git", but git make it clear that is not allowed. :)

-Peff
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  1. David LeeMay 7, 2011
  2. Sverre RabbelierMay 7, 2011
  3. Jeff KingMay 9, 2011
  4. David LeeMay 9, 2011
  5. Jeff KingMay 9, 2011
  6. David LeeMay 9, 2011
  7. Jeff KingMay 9, 2011
  8. Junio C HamanoMay 9, 2011
  9. Jeff KingMay 9, 2011
  10. Junio C HamanoMay 9, 2011
  11. Jeff KingMay 10, 2011
  12. Jay SoffianMay 10, 2011
  13. Jeff KingMay 10, 2011
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