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Re: [RFC/PATCH v2 0/4] A new library for plumbing output

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Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
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Apr 15, 2010, 06:57 UTC
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On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 02:34:01PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > Well, this whole idea started with the fact, that "git status --short"
> > was hard (or impossible) to parse unambigously by scripts[1], and even
> > "git status --porcelain -z"[2] is not that easy to parse[3].
> 
> And you apparently seem to agree with that claim, but I don't.  I think
> Jeff (who did the --porcelain stuff; by the way, why did we lose him from
> Cc list?) has already said that he is open to an update.

I haven't seen any evidence that status --porcelain (or its -z form) is impossible to parse unambiguously. I don't even think it's that hard, but it certainly could be easier. But more importantly, from looking at the output it's not necessarily _obvious_ how to parse it correctly (e.g., whitespace as value and as field separator, syntax of "-z" depends on semantics of field contents).

The approach I proposed was to leave it be and document it a bit better. Adding some format that is close but subtly different is just going to lead to more confusion.

But since Julian was willing to do the JSON work, I think that is a much nicer approach. It's not subtly different; it's very different and way easier to read and parse. And I'm really happy with the way he has structured the code to handle multiple output formats. It keeps the code much cleaner, and it should silence any "but YAML is better than JSON is better than XML" debates.

Even with Julian's patches, we should still better document the regular and "-z" forms. Eric promised to send some patches this week; I'm hoping he is still interested in doing so after seeing a better solution arise. :)

-Peff
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Message 18 of 28 in “A new library for plumbing output”
  1. 0/4 A new library for plumbing outputJulian Phillips, Apr 11, 2010
  2. 1/4 output: Add a new library for plumbing outputJulian Phillips, Apr 11, 2010
  3. Ilari LiusvaaraApr 13, 2010
  4. Julian PhillipsApr 13, 2010
  5. 2/4 ls-tree: complete conversion to using output libraryJulian Phillips, Apr 11, 2010
  6. 3/4 status: use output library for porcelain outputJulian Phillips, Apr 11, 2010
  7. 4/4 output: WIP: Add XML backendJulian Phillips, Apr 11, 2010
  8. Sverre RabbelierApr 11, 2010
  9. Eric RaymondApr 12, 2010
  10. Jakub NarebskiApr 14, 2010
  11. Sverre RabbelierApr 14, 2010
  12. Jakub NarebskiApr 14, 2010
  13. Junio C HamanoApr 14, 2010
  14. Jakub NarebskiApr 14, 2010
  15. Junio C HamanoApr 14, 2010
  16. Jakub NarebskiApr 14, 2010
  17. Junio C HamanoApr 14, 2010
  18. Jeff KingApr 15, 2010
  19. Jakub NarebskiApr 15, 2010
  20. Jeff KingApr 17, 2010
  21. Jakub NarebskiApr 17, 2010
  22. Jeff KingApr 17, 2010
  23. Julian PhillipsApr 18, 2010
  24. Jeff KingApr 19, 2010
  25. Julian PhillipsApr 14, 2010
  26. Jakub NarebskiApr 14, 2010
  27. Julian PhillipsApr 14, 2010
  28. Jeff KingApr 15, 2010

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