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Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert

From
Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Date
Sep 11, 2008, 23:26 UTC
Message-ID
<20080911232610.GA4279@coredump.intra.peff.net>
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<alpine.LFD.1.10.0809111533110.3384@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 04:10:26PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
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> > And obviously in Linus's workflow such references are basically useless,
> > and they should just not be generated.
> 
> This has _nothing_ to do with workflows or anything else.
> 
> Why are people claiming these total red herrings?
> 
> I have asked several times what it is that makes it so important that the 
> "origin" information be in the headers. Nobody has been able to explain 
> why it's so different from just doing it in the free-form part. NOBODY.

The message you are responding to has nothing to do with an origin header versus putting it in the free-form part. It is equally a problem with both approaches.

I was purely commenting on the "if I mention an arbitrary sha-1, what is the person reading it supposed to _do_ with it, if they may never have seen that sha-1" issue.

So yes, it has _everything_ to do with workflows. In Stephen's case, he claims that all references will be to commits on long-lived branches. In which case, it is a non-issue because they will have the referenced commits.

But in the general case, people will not have them, and there is potential head-scratching. My point is that even if a feature works for Stephen's workflow, it may not be a good feature for everyone, since other solutions handle the general case (as well as his case) much better.

> [ranting about how the origin header is bad]
> The only thing I have ever argued against is adding commit headers that 
> have no sane semantics and don't make sense as internal git data 
> structures.

Yes, and I totally agree with everything you said. If you read the mail you are responding to carefully, you will see that I never mention an origin header versus the free-form commit.

-Peff
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Message 52 of 137 in “[RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert”
  1. Stephen R. van den BergSep 9, 2008
  2. Paolo BonziniSep 9, 2008
  3. Stephen R. van den BergSep 9, 2008
  4. Stephen R. van den BergSep 9, 2008
  5. Jakub NarebskiSep 9, 2008
  6. Steven GrimmSep 9, 2008
  7. Stephen R. van den BergSep 9, 2008
  8. Jeff KingSep 9, 2008
  9. Stephen R. van den BergSep 9, 2008
  10. Junio C HamanoSep 9, 2008
  11. Shawn O. PearceSep 9, 2008
  12. Jeff KingSep 9, 2008
  13. Jakub NarebskiSep 9, 2008
  14. Jakub NarebskiSep 9, 2008
  15. Paolo BonziniSep 10, 2008
  16. Stephen R. van den BergSep 10, 2008
  17. Junio C HamanoSep 10, 2008
  18. Stephen R. van den BergSep 10, 2008
  19. Junio C HamanoSep 9, 2008
  20. Jeff KingSep 9, 2008
  21. Stephen R. van den BergSep 9, 2008
  22. Jakub NarebskiSep 9, 2008
  23. Stephen R. van den BergSep 9, 2008
  24. Linus TorvaldsSep 9, 2008
  25. Stephen R. van den BergSep 9, 2008
  26. Linus TorvaldsSep 10, 2008
  27. Stephen R. van den BergSep 10, 2008
  28. Linus TorvaldsSep 10, 2008
  29. Stephen R. van den BergSep 10, 2008
  30. Linus TorvaldsSep 11, 2008
  31. Stephen R. van den BergSep 11, 2008
  32. Jakub NarebskiSep 11, 2008
  33. Stephen R. van den BergSep 11, 2008
  34. Theodore TsoSep 11, 2008
  35. Stephen R. van den BergSep 11, 2008
  36. Theodore TsoSep 11, 2008
  37. Stephen R. van den BergSep 11, 2008
  38. Nicolas PitreSep 11, 2008
  39. Stephen R. van den BergSep 11, 2008
  40. Nicolas PitreSep 11, 2008
  41. Stephen R. van den BergSep 11, 2008
  42. Jakub NarebskiSep 11, 2008
  43. Stephen R. van den BergSep 11, 2008
  44. A Large Angry SCMSep 12, 2008
  45. Stephen R. van den BergSep 12, 2008
  46. Theodore TsoSep 11, 2008
  47. Jeff KingSep 11, 2008
  48. Stephen R. van den BergSep 11, 2008
  49. Jeff KingSep 11, 2008
  50. Stephen R. van den BergSep 11, 2008
  51. Linus TorvaldsSep 11, 2008
  52. Jeff KingSep 11, 2008
  53. Stephen R. van den BergSep 11, 2008
  54. Nicolas PitreSep 11, 2008
  55. Stephen R. van den BergSep 11, 2008
  56. Nicolas PitreSep 11, 2008
  57. Stephen R. van den BergSep 11, 2008
  58. Nicolas PitreSep 11, 2008
  59. Junio C HamanoSep 11, 2008
  60. Stephen R. van den BergSep 11, 2008
  61. Stephen R. van den BergSep 11, 2008
  62. A Large Angry SCMSep 11, 2008
  63. Stephen R. van den BergSep 11, 2008
  64. A Large Angry SCMSep 12, 2008
  65. Stephen R. van den BergSep 12, 2008
  66. Linus TorvaldsSep 11, 2008
  67. Paolo BonziniSep 11, 2008
  68. Linus TorvaldsSep 11, 2008
  69. Stephen R. van den BergSep 11, 2008
  70. Jakub NarebskiSep 11, 2008
  71. Stephen R. van den BergSep 11, 2008
  72. Nicolas PitreSep 11, 2008
  73. Stephen R. van den BergSep 11, 2008
  74. Nicolas PitreSep 11, 2008
  75. Stephen R. van den BergSep 12, 2008
  76. Theodore TsoSep 11, 2008
  77. Stephen R. van den BergSep 12, 2008
  78. Paolo BonziniSep 10, 2008
  79. Linus TorvaldsSep 10, 2008
  80. Paolo BonziniSep 10, 2008
  81. Linus TorvaldsSep 10, 2008
  82. Linus TorvaldsSep 10, 2008
  83. Paolo BonziniSep 10, 2008
  84. Stephen R. van den BergSep 10, 2008
  85. Jakub NarebskiSep 10, 2008
  86. Sam VilainSep 11, 2008
  87. Linus TorvaldsSep 11, 2008
  88. Sam VilainSep 12, 2008
  89. Stephen R. van den BergSep 12, 2008
  90. Rogan DawesSep 12, 2008
  91. Stephen R. van den BergSep 12, 2008
  92. Theodore TsoSep 12, 2008
  93. Paolo BonziniSep 12, 2008
  94. Jakub NarebskiSep 12, 2008
  95. Paolo BonziniSep 12, 2008
  96. Theodore TsoSep 12, 2008
  97. Stephen R. van den BergSep 12, 2008
  98. Jeff KingSep 12, 2008
  99. Stephen R. van den BergSep 12, 2008
  100. Theodore TsoSep 12, 2008
  101. Stephen R. van den BergSep 12, 2008
  102. Sam VilainSep 15, 2008
  103. Jakub NarebskiSep 9, 2008
  104. Petr BaudisSep 9, 2008
  105. Stephen R. van den BergSep 9, 2008
  106. Petr BaudisSep 9, 2008
  107. Stephen R. van den BergSep 9, 2008
  108. Paolo BonziniSep 10, 2008
  109. Petr BaudisSep 10, 2008
  110. Stephen R. van den BergSep 10, 2008
  111. Petr BaudisSep 10, 2008
  112. Stephen R. van den BergSep 10, 2008
  113. Dmitry PotapovSep 10, 2008
  114. Stephen R. van den BergSep 10, 2008
  115. Paolo BonziniSep 10, 2008
  116. Theodore TsoSep 10, 2008
  117. Stephen R. van den BergSep 10, 2008
  118. Jeff KingSep 10, 2008
  119. Stephen R. van den BergSep 10, 2008
  120. Jeff KingSep 10, 2008
  121. Stephen R. van den BergSep 10, 2008
  122. Jeff KingSep 10, 2008
  123. Stephen R. van den BergSep 10, 2008
  124. Paolo BonziniSep 11, 2008
  125. Stephen R. van den BergSep 11, 2008
  126. Paolo BonziniSep 11, 2008
  127. A Large Angry SCMSep 11, 2008
  128. Nicolas PitreSep 11, 2008
  129. Theodore TsoSep 10, 2008
  130. Petr BaudisSep 10, 2008
  131. Paolo BonziniSep 10, 2008
  132. Stephen R. van den BergSep 10, 2008
  133. Paolo BonziniSep 10, 2008
  134. Recording "partial merges" (was: Re: [RFC] origin link for cherry-pick and revert)Peter Krefting, Sep 23, 2008
  135. Miklos VajnaSep 10, 2008
  136. Nicolas PitreSep 10, 2008
  137. Miklos VajnaSep 10, 2008

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