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Re: [StGit] Debian packaging update

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HHHenrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Date
Aug 28, 2008, 14:09 UTC
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(Debian maintainer(s) for stgit added to CC through the generic package redirect address).

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, Catalin Marinas wrote:
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> 2008/8/22 Daniel White <daniel@whitehouse.id.au>:
> > Since it is now packaged by Debian is it still necessary to be
> > maintaining Debian packaging?
> 
> This is mainly to make it easier for Debian maintainers. Someone might
> also want to build a .deb package for a different version or flavour
> of Debian.

Well, I happen to be a heavy STGIT user, and also a senior Debian developer (I have been a DD for over 10 years), so I am entitled to reply to this thread I suppose :-)

Whatever people told you guys, the sad truth is that for the overwhelming majority of packages, the mere presence of a debian/ dir upstream is taken as a warning sign by any seasoned Debian developer (i.e. it is so often a problem, we take it as a bad sign). It almost never helps. I have no idea where stgit is in that regard, though. And I have NOT checked the "upstream version of the Debian packaging", so please don't take this personally.

But I can tell you that most DDs would prefer that upstream dumped the debian/ dir, unless it is kept *really* current. And really, at that point, you are losing a lot of the benefits of a downstream maintainer anyway (i.e. you are not delegating the whole issue to him, so that you can ignore the packaging and just pay attention to stgit itself).

Of course, this changes a lot when upstream is also a Debian developer and spends a few hours per week keeping up-to-date with Debian policy and toolset changes, etc.

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> > Having a look at the Debian version, they have made quite a few changes
> > against our packaging.  It might be worth getting some patches from
> > them that are not specific to Debian policy (like the setup of bash
> > completion).
> 
> I don't follow the Debian package much but I'll have a look to see the
> differences.

I have looked at it once or twice. From what I recall, it is mostly trying to make sure the tree is *really* clean, and moving some files to where Debian wants them. Also, it breaks the stuff into two packages, stgit and stgit-contrib, and updates a lot of the packaging metadata.

I think you guys should CC the Debian developer on any threads about the debian/ dir.

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh
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Message 9 of 18 in “[StGit] Debian packaging update”
  1. Daniel WhiteAug 18, 2008
  2. Catalin MarinasAug 21, 2008
  3. Daniel WhiteAug 22, 2008
  4. Daniel WhiteAug 22, 2008
  5. Catalin MarinasAug 22, 2008
  6. Catalin MarinasAug 22, 2008
  7. Daniel WhiteAug 23, 2008
  8. Sebastian HarlAug 28, 2008
  9. Henrique de Moraes HolschuhAug 28, 2008
  10. Karl HasselströmAug 28, 2008
  11. Henrique de Moraes HolschuhAug 28, 2008
  12. Yann DirsonAug 28, 2008
  13. Yann DirsonAug 28, 2008
  14. Yann DirsonAug 28, 2008
  15. Karl HasselströmAug 28, 2008
  16. Catalin MarinasAug 30, 2008
  17. Karl HasselströmAug 31, 2008
  18. Catalin MarinasAug 30, 2008

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