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Re: People unaware of the importance of "git gc"?

From
Pierre Habouzit <madcoder@debian.org>
Date
Sep 5, 2007, 09:14 UTC
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<20070905091400.GE31750@artemis.corp>
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On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 08:50:04AM +0000, Steven Grimm wrote:
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> Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> >  Well independently from the fact that one could suppose that users
> >should use gc on their own, the big nasty problem with repacking is that
> >it's really slow. And I just can't imagine git that I use to commit
> >blazingly fast, will then be unavailable for a very long time (repacks
> >on my projects -- that are not as big as the kernel but still -- usually
> >take more than 10 to 20 seconds each).
> >  
> 
> What about kicking off a repack in the background at the ends of certain 
> commands? With an option to disable, of course. It could run at a low 
> priority and could even sleep a lot to avoid saturating the system's 
> disks -- since it'd be running asynchronously there should be no problem 
> if it takes longer to run.
  there is an issue with that: repack is memory and CPU intensive. Of
course renicing the process deals with the CPU issue, but not with the
memory one. I've often seen repacks eat more than 300 to 400Mo of memory
on not so big repositories: it seems (and experience tells me that, not
looking at the code) that if you have some big binary blobs (we have
.swf's and .fla's in our repository) it can consume quite a lot of RAM
to (presumably) compute efficient deltas.
  Sadly there is no way to "renice" the ram usage of a process. Once a
repack is launched, it will make your system swap, and put the whole
computer on its knees.
> IMO expecting end users to regularly perform what are essentially 
> database administration tasks (running git-gc is akin to rebuilding 
> indexes or packing tables on a DBMS) is naive. Heck, even database 
> administrators don't like to run database administration commands; 
  Well that's what crons are for. When you install a SGBD in a
reasonable enough distro, it comes with the optimizing scripts in crons,
launched at a reasonable period of the day (localtime). So the
comparison doesn't hold. And that's exactly the problem: it's quite hard
to ship git with an optimizing cron task, because we can't know where
the user will keep his repositories, and when he works, so you have
somehow to do it yourself.
  Or you can deal with that with a "rule". At work, we have our devel
trees under $HOME/dev/, so the cron we use is just a (roughly):
    find $HOME/dev/ -name .git -type d -maxdepth 4 | while read repo
    do
        GIT_DIR="$repo" git gc
    done
  As we work on NFS, with a new developper, we can just setup the cron
for him at a date where he's not supposed to be at work, and that's it.
I'm not sure there is a good solution at all.
  Or we could also provide a: git-coffee-break command that would tell
git: do whatever you want with this computer in the next 10 minutes,
there won't be anyone watching, but I assume tea-lovers will feel
excluded.
-- 
·O·  Pierre Habouzit
··O                                                madcoder@debian.org
OOO                                                http://www.madism.org
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  2. Martin LanghoffSep 5, 2007
  3. Karl HasselströmSep 5, 2007
  4. Junio C HamanoSep 5, 2007
  5. Tomash BrechkoSep 5, 2007
  6. Johan HerlandSep 5, 2007
  7. Matthieu MoySep 5, 2007
  8. Johan HerlandSep 5, 2007
  9. David KastrupSep 5, 2007
  10. Pierre HabouzitSep 5, 2007
  11. David KastrupSep 5, 2007
  12. Matthieu MoySep 5, 2007
  13. Wincent ColaiutaSep 5, 2007
  14. Pierre HabouzitSep 5, 2007
  15. Junio C HamanoSep 5, 2007
  16. Steven GrimmSep 5, 2007
  17. Junio C HamanoSep 5, 2007
  18. Martin LanghoffSep 5, 2007
  19. Matthieu MoySep 5, 2007
  20. Johan De MessemaekerSep 5, 2007
  21. Matthieu MoySep 5, 2007
  22. Jeff KingSep 5, 2007
  23. David KastrupSep 5, 2007
  24. Pierre HabouzitSep 5, 2007
  25. NixSep 5, 2007
  26. Steven GrimmSep 5, 2007
  27. NixSep 5, 2007
  28. Nicolas PitreSep 5, 2007
  29. Junio C HamanoSep 5, 2007
  30. Nicolas PitreSep 5, 2007
  31. NixSep 5, 2007
  32. Junio C HamanoSep 5, 2007
  33. Nicolas PitreSep 5, 2007
  34. Junio C HamanoSep 5, 2007
  35. Carlos RicaSep 6, 2007
  36. David KastrupSep 6, 2007
  37. Junio C HamanoSep 5, 2007
  38. Invoke "git gc --auto" from commit, merge, am and rebase.Junio C Hamano, Sep 5, 2007
  39. Shawn O. PearceSep 6, 2007
  40. Invoke "git gc --auto" from "git add" and "git fetch"Junio C Hamano, Sep 5, 2007
  41. Johannes SchindelinSep 6, 2007
  42. Alex RiesenSep 5, 2007
  43. Russ DillSep 6, 2007
  44. Shawn O. PearceSep 6, 2007
  45. Andreas EricssonSep 6, 2007
  46. Shawn O. PearceSep 6, 2007
  47. Steven GrimmSep 6, 2007
  48. Shawn O. PearceSep 6, 2007
  49. Johannes SchindelinSep 6, 2007
  50. Junio C HamanoSep 6, 2007
  51. Linus TorvaldsSep 6, 2007
  52. Steven GrimmSep 6, 2007
  53. Subject: [PATCH] git-merge-packJunio C Hamano, Sep 6, 2007
  54. Linus TorvaldsSep 6, 2007
  55. Nicolas PitreSep 7, 2007
  56. Junio C HamanoSep 7, 2007
  57. Nicolas PitreSep 7, 2007
  58. Shawn O. PearceSep 7, 2007
  59. Junio C HamanoSep 7, 2007
  60. make sha1_file.c::matches_pack_name() available to othersJunio C Hamano, Sep 8, 2007
  61. pack-objects --repack-unpackedJunio C Hamano, Sep 8, 2007
  62. Johannes SixtSep 7, 2007
  63. Junio C HamanoSep 7, 2007
  64. Andy ParkinsSep 7, 2007
  65. Shawn O. PearceSep 7, 2007
  66. Johannes SchindelinSep 7, 2007
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  82. David KastrupSep 5, 2007
  83. Govind SalinasSep 5, 2007
  84. Carl WorthSep 5, 2007
  85. Jing XueSep 5, 2007
  86. Steven GrimmSep 5, 2007
  87. NixSep 5, 2007
  88. J. Bruce FieldsSep 5, 2007
  89. Brandon CaseySep 5, 2007
  90. David KastrupSep 5, 2007
  91. J. Bruce FieldsSep 5, 2007
  92. David KastrupSep 5, 2007
  93. Mike HommeySep 5, 2007
  94. Alex RiesenSep 5, 2007
  95. Steven GrimmSep 5, 2007
  96. David KastrupSep 5, 2007
  97. Fwd: [PATCH] Invoke "git gc --auto" from "git add" and "git fetch"Govind Salinas, Sep 5, 2007

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