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Re: suggestions for gitweb

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MNMichael Niedermayer <michaelni@gmx.at>
Date
May 14, 2007, 02:00 UTC
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<20070514020001.GX14859@MichaelsNB>
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<20070514010831.GH4489@pasky.or.cz>
Hi
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 03:08:31AM +0200, Petr Baudis wrote:
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>   Hi,
> 
> On Sun, May 13, 2007 at 02:01:52AM CEST, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 03:39:25PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> > > Michael Niedermayer <michaelni@gmx.at> writes:
> > > 
> > > > * gitweb uses many terms which are new to a non git user, and while
> > > >   devlopers who work on ffmpeg will very likely very quickly have
> > > >   figured out the meaning of all of them. i think simple users who just
> > > >   want to browse the ffmpeg code will have their problems, so i belive 
> > > >   a small help text linked to from all pages which contains a short
> > > >   definition of all the git(web) specific terms would be very helpfull
> > > >   something like
> > > >     blob        - file      at a specific revission/date
> > > >     tree        - directory at a specific revission/date
> > > >     (short) log - project wide commit log
> > > >     history     - short log equivalent for a file or directory
> > > 
> > > Coming fron non-CVS camp, I think changing this to non-git terms
> > > is very harmful than educating users who are migrating from
> > > other systems.
> > 
> > you must missunderstand me :(
> > i want to educate them, but i cannot as iam not speaking about ffmpeg
> > developers/contributors but rather random people who are curious and 
> > want to take a look at the ffmpeg source
> > 
> > for them a simple help link similar to "ViewVC Help" which viewvc has
> > on the bottom right of its pages would be great IMHO
> > also the text above is a pure random suggestion by a svn user and was
> > not intended to redefine any git terms
> 
>   I seriously doubt the usefulness of this. Meaning of all the links except
> maybe blob seems immediately obvious for me, even if I try to imagine
> that I know nothing about Git; maybe I'm wrong here, I might try to do
> an experiment. :-)
> 
>   But, even if that's the case, when a new user meets gitweb and looks
> at the 'history' link, what do you think she will do? Start hunting the
> page for some link to a glossary? I yet have to see a user like that :-)
> - I will bet that she just clicks at the link and figures out what it is
> about based on what happenned.
i agree with you that she will click on 'history' and figure out what it is
but if she wants to see the contents of one of the files then i think
she will be confused and not know where to click, and a 'help' link which
would lead to a page which explains what 'blob' is at the top of the page
would solve that with less frustration than random clicking around
(renaming blob to file_content would work too but i guess i would be
 lynched for mere suggesting ...)

this of course is not really a problem for ffmpeg, we could easily change "our" gitweb to contain a help link

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Message 15 of 21 in “suggestions for gitweb”
  1. Michael NiedermayerMay 12, 2007
  2. Junio C HamanoMay 12, 2007
  3. Aaron GrayMay 12, 2007
  4. Jakub NarebskiMay 13, 2007
  5. Junio C HamanoMay 13, 2007
  6. Jakub NarebskiMay 13, 2007
  7. Lars HjemliMay 13, 2007
  8. Suggestions for cgit (was: Re: suggestions for gitweb)Jakub Narebski, May 14, 2007
  9. Lars HjemliMay 14, 2007
  10. Lars HjemliMay 15, 2007
  11. Michael NiedermayerMay 13, 2007
  12. Jakub NarebskiMay 13, 2007
  13. Junio C HamanoMay 14, 2007
  14. Petr BaudisMay 14, 2007
  15. Michael NiedermayerMay 14, 2007
  16. Petr BaudisMay 14, 2007
  17. Michael NiedermayerMay 14, 2007
  18. Petr BaudisMay 14, 2007
  19. Jakub NarebskiMay 14, 2007
  20. Michael NiedermayerMay 14, 2007
  21. Jan HudecMay 15, 2007

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