Re: why does git set X in LESS env var?

From: Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>
Date: Oct 12, 2023, 05:46 UTC
Message-ID: <161b9584c6c9a004c01bda98cea4f1f8@manjaro.org>
In-Reply-To: <2f3ef5568ed19ac5bdcd23f84ddfb13dc6901043.camel@scientia.org>

On 2023-10-12 03:39, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:

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> On Thu, 2023-10-12 at 02:31 +0200, Dragan Simic wrote:
>> 
>> Makes sense, but please see also my other reply on the list.  To sum
>> it
>> up, we can have either the current behavior, the inconsistent
>> behavior,
>> or an even more annoying behavior.  I believe that the current
>> behavior
>> is the best choice among these three options.
> 
> Well as I've said... I don't demand that it's changed, but I simply
> think it's a wrong assumption that it's in any way better or worse.
> 
> Leaving back partial output, or when scrolling up&down completely
> messed up output, is surely not per se more annoying or a bigger
> problem than leaving back no output at all in one case (when it doesn't
> fit on one screen) or leaving back output (when it fits).

Let me repeat that the messed up output you're experiencing isn't normal and has nothing to do with the arguments passed to less(1). That's a separate issue of the terminal emulator(s) you're using, or in issue of your specific environment, and should be debugged and addressed as a separate issue.

To me, having inconsistent displaying of the short and long outputs is simply not acceptable.

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>> Yes, I'm sure, because I'd be fixing that already if that were the
>> case
>> in my environment. :)  I use Xfce and its default terminal emulator,
>> though, and I don't know what it's like in other desktop environments
>> and their terminal emulators.
> 
> I just tried it with xfce4-terminal 1.1.0 (which AFAICS is the most
> recent version) in Debian, and unless they break anything with custom
> patches, or you distro fixes anything with custom patches... I'd say
> you must suffer from the same issue and probably just try something
> different.

Let me repeat that I don't see those issues, and actually, IIRC, have never seen them in my 25+ years of using various Linux distributions. If I've ever seen that, it would've already motivated me to have it debugged and fixed.

Perhaps something is wrong with your specific environment, because I see no other reason for this issue.

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> Since Debian's less is pretty outdated, I've even compiled a quite
> recent less 643 (there's not even a tarball yet for 644, only a git
> tag).
> 
> A made a screen recording... it's not 8K ;-) but I guess you can see
> what I do:
> https://youtu.be/KMs3sLk9nXY

For some reason, I can see it with 360p as the highest available resolution, so I really can't read what's displayed on the recorded screen. Strange. Could you, please, upload the video in higher resolution, perhaps to a file sharing service such as https://easyupload.io/ ?