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git.git: topics and things like that

Subject: git.git: topics and things like that

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11 messages between Mar 25, 2007 and Mar 25, 2007.

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Xavier Maillard· Mar 25, 2007, 20:37 UTC · lore
Hi,

This may appear as a stupid question but as I can not find anything about this, I am just asking.

So, how is git development organised ? I saw there are topics but I do not know how patches are applied mainline (onto tip of master).

Would you mind explaining this very quickly so I can understand messages "What's new in git.git" ? :)

Thank you very much and sorry to bother with this basic question.
Xavier
Shawn O. Pearce· Mar 25, 2007, 20:52 UTC · re: Xavier Maillard · lore

Re: git.git: topics and things like that

Xavier Maillard <zedek@gnu.org> wrote:
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> This may appear as a stupid question but as I can not find
> anything about this, I am just asking.
> 
> So, how is git development organised ? I saw there are topics but
> I do not know how patches are applied mainline (onto tip of
> master).

Junio covered this well in the past. The text has been copied into the wiki:

  http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/Notes
But I have to admit, it took me a while to find it.  ;-)
 
-- 
Shawn.
Xavier Maillard· Mar 25, 2007, 21:17 UTC · re: Shawn O. Pearce · lore

Re: git.git: topics and things like that

   Junio covered this well in the past.  The text has been copied into
   the wiki:
     http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/Notes
   But I have to admit, it took me a while to find it.  ;-)
Thank you very much. I will copy/paste it locally.
Xavier
Junio C Hamano· Mar 25, 2007, 21:02 UTC · re: Xavier Maillard · lore

Re: git.git: topics and things like that

Xavier Maillard <zedek@gnu.org> writes:
> So, how is git development organised ? I saw there are topics but
> I do not know how patches are applied mainline (onto tip of
> master).

Your maintainer posts "A note from the maintainer" to the list every once in a while describing this exact issue.

The last such message was on Feb 16th
	Message-ID: <7vire120qc.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net>
gmane has it as article 39954:
	http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/39954
Xavier Maillard· Mar 25, 2007, 21:17 UTC · re: Junio C Hamano · lore

Re: git.git: topics and things like that

Hi,
   > So, how is git development organised ? I saw there are topics but
   > I do not know how patches are applied mainline (onto tip of
   > master).
   Your maintainer posts "A note from the maintainer" to the list
   every once in a while describing this exact issue.
I never have seen such message but I will read it now.
Anyway, thank you.
Xavier
Junio C Hamano· Mar 25, 2007, 22:10 UTC · re: Xavier Maillard · lore

Re: git.git: topics and things like that

Xavier Maillard <zedek@gnu.org> writes:
>    Your maintainer posts "A note from the maintainer" to the list
>    every once in a while describing this exact issue.
>
> I never have seen such message but I will read it now.
Heh, how new are you to the list?

Is every three months not often enough? Meaning, is expecting new users to look back that much backlog in the list archive too much to ask?

Steven Grimm· Mar 25, 2007, 22:46 UTC · re: Junio C Hamano · lore

Re: git.git: topics and things like that

Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> Heh, how new are you to the list?
>
> Is every three months not often enough?  Meaning, is expecting
> new users to look back that much backlog in the list archive too
> much to ask?
>   

I went looking for an answer to the "what does 'pu' mean?" question when I first joined the list, failed to find one, then stumbled across it by accident while randomly skimming the archives. "A message from the maintainer" is not at first glance an obvious subject line to click on if you're searching for that kind of introductory information -- putting on my "unfamiliar with the list's conventions" hat, I'd expect a message of that title to contain something like, "Hey guys, can you help test XYZ?" or "The list archives will be moving in two weeks" or, more likely, "Our hosting is costing us too much and we need donations."

It would be convenient for new users and, I assume, not much additional effort to put the URL of that Wiki page at the top of the "what's cooking" messages. Barring that, maybe the "A message from the maintainer" email should be titled "Introduction to git project management" or something similar that would make it immediately obvious to a new user that it's something they should read to get general background information about the project.

Just IMO. At this point I've been lurking here long enough that I don't need it for myself, but I do remember wishing that info were easier to find.

-Steve
Junio C Hamano· Mar 25, 2007, 23:14 UTC · re: Steven Grimm · lore

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Steven Grimm <koreth@midwinter.com> writes:
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> ... maybe the "A message from the
> maintainer" email should be titled "Introduction to git project
> management" or something similar that would make it immediately
> obvious to a new user that it's something they should read to get
> general background information about the project.

I do not necessarily think that is a better title. It not just talks the project management, but a note from the maintainer in general. In the future it might talk about even more things.

Moderated newsgroups tend to have "foo.bar.baz FAQ" periodical postings, but I'd rather not make me the authoritative FAQ maintainer, as git is about distributed development and borrowing the convention from heavily-centralized moderated world feels wrong. Besides, it is something that does not have to be done by me.

I just expected people to pay attention to what the maintainer has to say (in addition to what the well known list regulars have to say), if they wanted to know what the project is about, and "A note from the maintainer" (the message _always_ had that title) would be a good enough title for finding that.

Any volunteers to maintain FAQ for the list?
Martin Langhoff· Mar 25, 2007, 23:04 UTC · re: Junio C Hamano · lore

Re: git.git: topics and things like that

On 3/26/07, Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net> wrote:
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> Heh, how new are you to the list?
>
> Is every three months not often enough?  Meaning, is expecting
> new users to look back that much backlog in the list archive too
> much to ask?

I'd say he probably didn't know. Maybe an extra paragraph at the end of the README ? along the lines of ...

The project maintainer sends out regular emails to the list titled "A note from the maintainer", "What's cooking in git.git" and "Unresolved issues". These messages and the discussion following them are a good reference for project status, development direction and bugfixing tasks.

cheers,
martin
Junio C Hamano· Mar 25, 2007, 23:23 UTC · re: Martin Langhoff · lore

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"Martin Langhoff" <martin.langhoff@gmail.com> writes:
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> I'd say he probably didn't know. Maybe an extra paragraph at the end
> of the  README  ? along the lines of ...
>
> The project maintainer sends out regular emails to the list titled "A
> note from the maintainer", "What's cooking in git.git" and "Unresolved
> issues". These messages and the discussion following them are a good
> reference for project status, development direction and bugfixing
> tasks.

Thanks; that is a wonderful, constructive suggestion. Would have been even better if it was presented in a patch form ;-).

Jakub Narebski· Mar 25, 2007, 23:36 UTC · re: Martin Langhoff · lore

Re: git.git: topics and things like that

Martin Langhoff wrote:
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> On 3/26/07, Junio C Hamano <junkio@cox.net> wrote:
>> Heh, how new are you to the list?
>>
>> Is every three months not often enough?  Meaning, is expecting
>> new users to look back that much backlog in the list archive too
>> much to ask?
> 
> I'd say he probably didn't know. Maybe an extra paragraph at the end
> of the  README  ? along the lines of ...
> 
> The project maintainer sends out regular emails to the list titled "A
> note from the maintainer", "What's cooking in git.git" and "Unresolved
> issues". These messages and the discussion following them are a good
> reference for project status, development direction and bugfixing
> tasks.
Add "What's in git.git (stable)" to that.
-- 
Jakub Narebski
Warsaw, Poland
ShadeHawk on #git

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