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patch, 5 partsgit son: add command to create independent child repositories

9 messages between May 26, 2026 and Jun 1, 2026, from Evan Haque via GitGitGadget, Ben Knoble, Claus Schneider, Junio C Hamano.

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Evan Haque via GitGitGadgetMay 26, 2026, 16:47 UTC on lore

Motivation ==========

When spinning off a new project that is related to an existing repository, there is no built-in way to create a child repository that maintains a link back to its parent without the tight coupling of submodules. Submodules pin the child to a specific commit and require the parent to track the child in its index, which is too heavyweight when the child is meant to be fully independent.

The typical workflow today is manual: git init, git remote add, update .gitignore — three steps that are easy to forget or get wrong. git son automates this and establishes a lightweight convention for the parent-child relationship: a remote named parent in the child, and nothing in the parent except an ignore rule.

Summary =======

This series introduces git son, a new porcelain command that creates an independent child repository inside the current working tree. Unlike a submodule, the child is not tracked by the parent; instead, its subdirectory is added to the parent's .gitignore. The child is configured at creation time with a remote named parent pointing back to the parent repository's origin URL (or local path if no origin exists), making the lineage explicit and recoverable via standard Git commands.

Changes =======

 * git-son.sh: new shell script implementing the command, supporting
   --inherit to fetch parent history at creation time and --branch <branch>
   (requires --inherit) to check out a specific parent branch
 * git-son registered in command-list.txt as mainporcelain
 * git-son.sh added to SCRIPT_SH in Makefile and to scripts_sh in
   meson.build
 * Documentation/git-son.adoc: new man page covering synopsis, option
   descriptions, and worked examples
 * Documentation/meson.build: git-son.adoc added to the manpage build list
 * t/t5151-son.sh: new test script covering basic creation, parent remote
   configuration, .gitignore update, idempotency failure, flag validation,
   and --inherit with a bare remote

Details =======

The key design property is independence: the child is a fully self-contained repository with no entry in the parent's index. The parent remote is the only artifact linking the two, which means git fetch parent and git log parent/<branch> work as expected from within the child without any special tooling.

The --branch flag is intentionally restricted to --inherit mode. Without fetching, there is no remote-tracking branch to check out from, so accepting --branch alone would be misleading; the command dies with a clear diagnostic in that case.

When no origin URL is available in the parent, the parent remote is set to the parent's absolute local path. This covers the common case of repositories that have never been pushed to a remote.

Testing =======

t/t5151-son.sh covers the following scenarios:
 * Basic child repository creation (directory exists, .git present)
 * parent remote is correctly recorded in the child
 * Child directory is appended to the parent's .gitignore
 * Child starts with exactly one initial commit when --inherit is not used
 * Command fails without leaving a directory when the target already exists
 * --branch without --inherit is rejected before any filesystem changes
 * --inherit fetches parent history and the remote-tracking branch is
   reachable in the child
Evan Haque (5):
  git-son: add command to create independent child repositories
  git-son: register in Makefile and meson build system
  git-son: add to command list as mainporcelain
  git-son: add documentation
  git-son: add tests
 .gitignore                 |  1 +
 Documentation/git-son.adoc | 64 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Documentation/meson.build  |  1 +
 Makefile                   |  1 +
 command-list.txt           |  1 +
 git-son.sh                 | 97 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 meson.build                |  1 +
 t/meson.build              |  1 +
 t/t5151-son.sh             | 63 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
 9 files changed, 230 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 Documentation/git-son.adoc
 create mode 100755 git-son.sh
 create mode 100755 t/t5151-son.sh
base-commit: aec3f587505a472db67e9462d0702e7d463a449d
Published-As: https://github.com/gitgitgadget/git/releases/tag/pr-2122%2FEvandabest%2Fgit-son-v1
Fetch-It-Via: git fetch https://github.com/gitgitgadget/git pr-2122/Evandabest/git-son-v1
Pull-Request: https://github.com/gitgitgadget/git/pull/2122
-- 
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Evan Haque via GitGitGadgetMay 26, 2026, 16:47 UTC in reply to Evan Haque via GitGitGadget on lore

[PATCH 1/5] git-son: add command to create independent child repositories

From: Evan Haque <evanhaque1@gmail.com>

Introduce git-son, a new porcelain command that creates an independent child repository inside the current working tree. Unlike submodules, the child is not tracked by the parent; instead its directory is added to the parent's .gitignore and a "parent" remote is configured in the child pointing back to the parent's origin URL or local path.

This gives users a lightweight way to spin off a related repository that knows where it came from without the coupling that submodules impose.

The command supports two optional flags:
  --inherit    fetch the parent's history into the child at creation
  --branch     check out a specific parent branch (requires --inherit)
Assisted-by: Claude Opus 4.6
Signed-off-by: Evan Haque <evanhaque1@gmail.com>
---
 git-son.sh | 97 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 97 insertions(+)
 create mode 100755 git-son.sh
Show changes to git-son.sh +97 −0
diff --git a/git-son.sh b/git-son.sh
new file mode 100755
index 0000000000..a212c7b69f
--- /dev/null
+++ b/git-son.sh
@@ -0,0 +1,97 @@
+#!/bin/sh
+#
+# git-son: create an independent child repository that knows its parent
+#
+
+SUBDIRECTORY_OK='Yes'
+OPTIONS_SPEC='git son [options] <name>
+--
+inherit    fetch parent history into the son
+branch=    start the son from a specific parent branch
+'
+
+. git-sh-setup
+require_work_tree
+cd_to_toplevel
+
+inherit=
+branch=
+while test $# -gt 0
+do
+	case "$1" in
+	--inherit)
+		inherit=1 ;;
+	--branch)
+		shift
+		branch="$1" ;;
+	--)
+		shift; break ;;
+	-*)
+		usage ;;
+	*)
+		break ;;
+	esac
+	shift
+done
+
+name="$1"
+test -n "$name" || usage
+
+if test -n "$branch" && test -z "$inherit"
+then
+	die "fatal: --branch requires --inherit"
+fi
+
+parent_dir="$(pwd)"
+parent_remote="$(git remote get-url origin 2>/dev/null)" || parent_remote=
+
+if test -e "$name"
+then
+	die "fatal: '$name' already exists"
+fi
+
+mkdir "$name" || die "fatal: could not create directory '$name'"
+
+if ! echo "$name/" >> "$parent_dir/.gitignore" 2>/dev/null
+then
+	rm -rf "$name"
+	die "fatal: could not update .gitignore"
+fi
+
+cd "$name" || die "fatal: could not enter directory '$name'"
+
+if ! git init
+then
+	rm -rf "$parent_dir/$name"
+	die "fatal: could not initialize repository in '$name'"
+fi
+
+if test -n "$parent_remote"
+then
+	git remote add parent "$parent_remote"
+else
+	git remote add parent "$parent_dir"
+fi
+
+if test -n "$inherit"
+then
+	git fetch parent || die "fatal: could not fetch from parent"
+	if test -n "$branch"
+	then
+		git checkout -b "$branch" "parent/$branch" ||
+			die "fatal: could not checkout branch '$branch'"
+	else
+		git checkout -b main parent/HEAD 2>/dev/null ||
+			git checkout -b main "parent/$(git remote show parent | sed -n 's/.*HEAD branch: //p')" 2>/dev/null ||
+			echo "warning: could not determine parent HEAD, starting empty"
+	fi
+else
+	echo "# $name" > README.md
+	git add README.md
+	git commit -q -m "Initial commit"
+fi
+
+echo ""
+echo "Created son repository '$name'"
+echo "  parent: ${parent_remote:-$parent_dir}"
+echo "  inherit: ${inherit:-no}"
-- 
gitgitgadget
Evan Haque via GitGitGadgetMay 26, 2026, 16:47 UTC in reply to Evan Haque via GitGitGadget on lore

[PATCH 2/5] git-son: register in Makefile and meson build system

From: Evan Haque <evanhaque1@gmail.com>

Add git-son.sh to SCRIPT_SH in the Makefile and to the scripts_sh array in meson.build so that the script is installed alongside the other shell-based Git commands during "make install" and meson builds.

Also add /git-son to .gitignore so that the build artifact produced from git-son.sh is not flagged as an untracked file.

Assisted-by: Claude Opus 4.6
Signed-off-by: Evan Haque <evanhaque1@gmail.com>
---
 .gitignore  | 1 +
 Makefile    | 1 +
 meson.build | 1 +
 3 files changed, 3 insertions(+)
Show changes to 3 files +3 −0

.gitignore, Makefile, meson.build

diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 4da58c6754..5f329179c8 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -164,6 +164,7 @@
 /git-show-branch
 /git-show-index
 /git-show-ref
+/git-son
 /git-sparse-checkout
 /git-stage
 /git-stash
diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile
index fb50c57e4f..4791f47af1 100644
--- a/Makefile
+++ b/Makefile
@@ -728,6 +728,7 @@ SCRIPT_SH += git-merge-resolve.sh
 SCRIPT_SH += git-mergetool.sh
 SCRIPT_SH += git-quiltimport.sh
 SCRIPT_SH += git-request-pull.sh
+SCRIPT_SH += git-son.sh
 SCRIPT_SH += git-submodule.sh
 SCRIPT_SH += git-web--browse.sh
 
diff --git a/meson.build b/meson.build
index 052c81f288..538bd4025f 100644
--- a/meson.build
+++ b/meson.build
@@ -1973,6 +1973,7 @@ scripts_sh = [
   'git-mergetool.sh',
   'git-quiltimport.sh',
   'git-request-pull.sh',
+  'git-son.sh',
   'git-sh-i18n.sh',
   'git-sh-setup.sh',
   'git-submodule.sh',
-- 
gitgitgadget
Evan Haque via GitGitGadgetMay 26, 2026, 16:47 UTC in reply to Evan Haque via GitGitGadget on lore

[PATCH 3/5] git-son: add to command list as mainporcelain

From: Evan Haque <evanhaque1@gmail.com>

Register git-son in command-list.txt as a mainporcelain command so that it appears in "git help" output and is discoverable through the standard help machinery.

Assisted-by: Claude Opus 4.6
Signed-off-by: Evan Haque <evanhaque1@gmail.com>
---
 command-list.txt | 1 +
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
Show changes to command-list.txt +1 −0
diff --git a/command-list.txt b/command-list.txt
index 21b802c420..880177e0fd 100644
--- a/command-list.txt
+++ b/command-list.txt
@@ -186,6 +186,7 @@ git-show                                mainporcelain           info
 git-show-branch                         ancillaryinterrogators          complete
 git-show-index                          plumbinginterrogators
 git-show-ref                            plumbinginterrogators
+git-son                                 mainporcelain
 git-sparse-checkout                     mainporcelain
 git-stage                                                               complete
 git-stash                               mainporcelain
-- 
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Evan Haque via GitGitGadgetMay 26, 2026, 16:47 UTC in reply to Evan Haque via GitGitGadget on lore

[PATCH 4/5] git-son: add documentation

From: Evan Haque <evanhaque1@gmail.com>

Add a man page (git-son.adoc) documenting the synopsis, options, and usage examples for the new command. Register the page in Documentation/meson.build so it is built by the meson doc target.

Assisted-by: Claude Opus 4.6
Signed-off-by: Evan Haque <evanhaque1@gmail.com>
---
 Documentation/git-son.adoc | 64 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 Documentation/meson.build  |  1 +
 2 files changed, 65 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 Documentation/git-son.adoc
Show changes to 2 files +65 −0

Documentation/git-son.adoc, Documentation/meson.build

diff --git a/Documentation/git-son.adoc b/Documentation/git-son.adoc
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..17ec992bfd
--- /dev/null
+++ b/Documentation/git-son.adoc
@@ -0,0 +1,64 @@
+git-son(1)
+==========
+
+NAME
+----
+git-son - Create an independent child repository that knows its parent
+
+SYNOPSIS
+--------
+[verse]
+'git son' [--inherit] [--branch <branch>] <name>
+
+DESCRIPTION
+-----------
+
+Create a new independent Git repository inside the current working
+tree as a subdirectory named `<name>`. Unlike a submodule, the child
+repository is not tracked by the parent; instead, `<name>/` is added
+to the parent's `.gitignore`.
+
+The child repository is configured with a remote called `parent`
+pointing back to the parent repository's origin URL (or local path
+if no origin is set), allowing the child to fetch from the parent
+at any time.
+
+OPTIONS
+-------
+--inherit::
+	Fetch the parent's history into the child repository at
+	creation time. Without this flag, the child starts with a
+	single initial commit.
+
+--branch <branch>::
+	When used with `--inherit`, check out the given branch from
+	the parent instead of the default branch. This option
+	requires `--inherit`.
+
+<name>::
+	The name of the subdirectory (and child repository) to create.
+	Must not already exist.
+
+EXAMPLES
+--------
+
+Create a simple child repository:
+
+	git son my-tool
+
+Create a child that inherits the parent's history:
+
+	git son --inherit my-fork
+
+Create a child starting from a specific parent branch:
+
+	git son --inherit --branch feature my-experiment
+
+Later, from within the child, fetch updates from the parent:
+
+	cd my-tool
+	git fetch parent
+
+GIT
+---
+Part of the linkgit:git[1] suite
diff --git a/Documentation/meson.build b/Documentation/meson.build
index f4854f802d..1ae7e5f644 100644
--- a/Documentation/meson.build
+++ b/Documentation/meson.build
@@ -139,6 +139,7 @@ manpages = {
   'git-show-ref.adoc' : 1,
   'git-show.adoc' : 1,
   'git-sh-setup.adoc' : 1,
+  'git-son.adoc' : 1,
   'git-sparse-checkout.adoc' : 1,
   'git-stage.adoc' : 1,
   'git-stash.adoc' : 1,
-- 
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Evan Haque via GitGitGadgetMay 26, 2026, 16:47 UTC in reply to Evan Haque via GitGitGadget on lore

[PATCH 5/5] git-son: add tests

From: Evan Haque <evanhaque1@gmail.com>
Add t5151-son.sh with nine test cases covering:
 - basic child repository creation
 - parent remote configuration in the child
 - .gitignore update in the parent
 - initial commit presence in the child
 - failure when the target directory already exists
 - --branch without --inherit is rejected cleanly
 - no leftover directory on validation failure
 - --inherit fetches parent history

Register the test in t/meson.build so the meson build system discovers and runs it.

Assisted-by: Claude Opus 4.6
Signed-off-by: Evan Haque <evanhaque1@gmail.com>
---
 t/meson.build  |  1 +
 t/t5151-son.sh | 63 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 2 files changed, 64 insertions(+)
 create mode 100755 t/t5151-son.sh
Show changes to 2 files +64 −0

t/meson.build, t/t5151-son.sh

diff --git a/t/meson.build b/t/meson.build
index fd955f44ef..523062df66 100644
--- a/t/meson.build
+++ b/t/meson.build
@@ -591,6 +591,7 @@ integration_tests = [
   't5004-archive-corner-cases.sh',
   't5100-mailinfo.sh',
   't5150-request-pull.sh',
+  't5151-son.sh',
   't5200-update-server-info.sh',
   't5300-pack-object.sh',
   't5301-sliding-window.sh',
diff --git a/t/t5151-son.sh b/t/t5151-son.sh
new file mode 100755
index 0000000000..826cbbfa66
--- /dev/null
+++ b/t/t5151-son.sh
@@ -0,0 +1,63 @@
+#!/bin/sh
+
+test_description='Test git son command.'
+
+GIT_TEST_DEFAULT_INITIAL_BRANCH_NAME=main
+export GIT_TEST_DEFAULT_INITIAL_BRANCH_NAME
+
+. ./test-lib.sh
+
+test_expect_success 'setup parent repository' '
+	echo "parent content" >file.txt &&
+	git add file.txt &&
+	git commit -m "Initial parent commit"
+'
+
+test_expect_success 'son creates child repository' '
+	git son my-child &&
+	test -d my-child &&
+	test -d my-child/.git
+'
+
+test_expect_success 'son sets parent remote in child' '
+	(
+		cd my-child &&
+		git remote get-url parent
+	)
+'
+
+test_expect_success 'son adds child to parent .gitignore' '
+	grep "my-child/" .gitignore
+'
+
+test_expect_success 'son child has initial commit' '
+	(
+		cd my-child &&
+		test $(git log --oneline | wc -l) -eq 1
+	)
+'
+
+test_expect_success 'son fails if target already exists' '
+	test_must_fail git son my-child
+'
+
+test_expect_success 'son with --branch requires --inherit' '
+	test_must_fail git son --branch main branch-child
+'
+
+test_expect_success 'son with --branch leaves no directory on failure' '
+	! test -e branch-child
+'
+
+test_expect_success 'son with --inherit fetches parent history' '
+	git init --bare "$TRASH_DIRECTORY/parent.git" &&
+	git push "$TRASH_DIRECTORY/parent.git" main &&
+	git remote add origin "file://$TRASH_DIRECTORY/parent.git" &&
+	git son --inherit inherited-child &&
+	(
+		cd inherited-child &&
+		git log --oneline parent/main
+	)
+'
+
+test_done
-- 
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Ben KnobleMay 26, 2026, 21:27 UTC in reply to Evan Haque via GitGitGadget on lore

Re: [PATCH 0/5] git son: add command to create independent child repositories

Show 18 quoted lines
> Le 26 mai 2026 à 13:08, Evan Haque via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> 
> Motivation
> ==========
> 
> When spinning off a new project that is related to an existing repository,
> there is no built-in way to create a child repository that maintains a link
> back to its parent without the tight coupling of submodules. Submodules pin
> the child to a specific commit and require the parent to track the child in
> its index, which is too heavyweight when the child is meant to be fully
> independent.
> 
> The typical workflow today is manual: git init, git remote add, update
> .gitignore — three steps that are easy to forget or get wrong. git son
> automates this and establishes a lightweight convention for the parent-child
> relationship: a remote named parent in the child, and nothing in the parent
> except an ignore rule.
I don’t really understand the motivation, but if your goal is to create another repo with the current one as a remote, how does something like
    git clone . child
help you? (I’m pretty sure you can even set the remote name to « parent » if you wish.)
You also didn’t mention worktrees or subtrees, which might be useful for you. 
Claus SchneiderMay 29, 2026, 12:35 UTC in reply to Ben Knoble on lore

Re: [PATCH 0/5] git son: add command to create independent child repositories

Hi ..

I would motivate to fix in git-submodules in stead. I updated the logic around the ignored setting of a submodule, so it is truly ignored - both in git status(already) and `git add`, which now explicitly requires `--force`. It now gives the ability to configure your submodule as 'loosely' by tracking branches without the friction of `git add` is staging it all the time and you get conflicts in PR/integrations. You can use git submodule status to list the sha1 of the submodule for release etc.

https://github.com/gitgitgadget/git/pull/1987 alias "git-add: Skip submodules with ignore=all unless --force and explicit path used by bicschneider · Pull Request #1987 · gitgitgadget/git"

Please try this update and then describe what is ( still ) missing as i am looking into submodules in general and will try to "fix" the friction points of developers.

Best regards Claus Schneider

On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 11:29 PM Ben Knoble <ben.knoble@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
>
> > Le 26 mai 2026 à 13:08, Evan Haque via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >
> > 
> > Motivation
> > ==========
> >
> > When spinning off a new project that is related to an existing repository,
> > there is no built-in way to create a child repository that maintains a link
> > back to its parent without the tight coupling of submodules. Submodules pin
> > the child to a specific commit and require the parent to track the child in
> > its index, which is too heavyweight when the child is meant to be fully
> > independent.
> >
> > The typical workflow today is manual: git init, git remote add, update
> > .gitignore — three steps that are easy to forget or get wrong. git son
> > automates this and establishes a lightweight convention for the parent-child
> > relationship: a remote named parent in the child, and nothing in the parent
> > except an ignore rule.
>
> I don’t really understand the motivation, but if your goal is to create another repo with the current one as a remote, how does something like
>
>     git clone . child
>
> help you? (I’m pretty sure you can even set the remote name to « parent » if you wish.)
>
> You also didn’t mention worktrees or subtrees, which might be useful for you.
Junio C HamanoJun 1, 2026, 05:33 UTC in reply to Evan Haque via GitGitGadget on lore

Re: [PATCH 0/5] git son: add command to create independent child repositories

"Evan Haque via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:
Show 15 quoted lines
> Motivation
> ==========
>
> When spinning off a new project that is related to an existing repository,
> there is no built-in way to create a child repository that maintains a link
> back to its parent without the tight coupling of submodules. Submodules pin
> the child to a specific commit and require the parent to track the child in
> its index, which is too heavyweight when the child is meant to be fully
> independent.
>
> The typical workflow today is manual: git init, git remote add, update
> .gitignore — three steps that are easy to forget or get wrong. git son
> automates this and establishes a lightweight convention for the parent-child
> relationship: a remote named parent in the child, and nothing in the parent
> except an ignore rule.

Although I am personally not interested in this topic even for local repository use, I should point out that using this tool to create this combination of repositories would not be useful for other people who want to clone your arrangement. Other than leaving comments in the parent project, there seems to be no way to specify how or where the child projects should be cloned within the working tree of the parent project.

Since Git is primarily a tool for collaboration among people with their own repositories, I fail see how this feature is something we should ship to all Git users as part of the core distribution.

Thanks.

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