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patchfast-export: emit deletions first

8 messages between Apr 6, 2026 and Apr 7, 2026, from Raymond E. Pasco, Junio C Hamano, Jeff King, Elijah Newren.

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Raymond E. PascoApr 6, 2026, 06:36 UTC on lore

fast-export chooses its output order by pathname, sorting longer paths earlier. However, this causes faulty output when the deleted path is a prefix of the added one. For example, deleting a file 'a' and creating a file 'a/b' emits:

from :prev_label M 100644 :blob_label a/b D a

Fix this by sorting deletions to come before other types of change.
Signed-off-by: Raymond E. Pasco <ray@ameretat.dev>
---

This is a quick and dirty fix for the bug. However, I do want to spend a little more time on it - it may be that we only want to reverse the sort when the deletion is specifically the prefix of some addition, and I want to fence this off with new tests.

 builtin/fast-export.c | 6 ++++++
 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
Show changes to builtin/fast-export.c +6 −0
diff --git a/builtin/fast-export.c b/builtin/fast-export.c
index b90da5e616..82d73b2f43 100644
--- a/builtin/fast-export.c
+++ b/builtin/fast-export.c
@@ -354,6 +354,12 @@ static int depth_first(const void *a_, const void *b_)
 	int len_a, len_b, len;
 	int cmp;
 
+	/* emit deletions first */
+	int a_deletes = (a->status == DIFF_STATUS_DELETED);
+	int b_deletes = (b->status == DIFF_STATUS_DELETED);
+	if (a_deletes != b_deletes)
+		return b_deletes - a_deletes;
+
 	name_a = a->one ? a->one->path : a->two->path;
 	name_b = b->one ? b->one->path : b->two->path;
 
-- 
2.54.0.rc0.605.g598a273b03.dirty
Junio C HamanoApr 6, 2026, 17:15 UTC in reply to Raymond E. Pasco on lore

Re: [WIP PATCH] fast-export: emit deletions first

"Raymond E. Pasco" <ray@ameretat.dev> writes:
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> fast-export chooses its output order by pathname, sorting longer
> paths earlier. However, this causes faulty output when the deleted
> path is a prefix of the added one. For example, deleting a file 'a' and
> creating a file 'a/b' emits:
>
> from :prev_label
> M 100644 :blob_label a/b
> D a
>
> Fix this by sorting deletions to come before other types of change.
>
> Signed-off-by: Raymond E. Pasco <ray@ameretat.dev>
> ---
>
> This is a quick and dirty fix for the bug. However, I do want to spend a
> little more time on it - it may be that we only want to reverse the sort
> when the deletion is specifically the prefix of some addition, and I
> want to fence this off with new tests.

I recall doing something like this in "git checkout" and also "git am" to ensure that a thing deep in the hierarchy will not be affected by a D/F conflict at a shallower level, so I do not have objection to this kind of change in principle. I do not know if depth_first() is the right place to make this decision or if the function should keep its name if it turns out to be the right place.

In any case, it is a bit surprising that fast-export survived this long without having encountering the problem you are solving. I wonder if fast-import handles such an output with some smart to avoid the issue?

Thanks.
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>  builtin/fast-export.c | 6 ++++++
>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/builtin/fast-export.c b/builtin/fast-export.c
> index b90da5e616..82d73b2f43 100644
> --- a/builtin/fast-export.c
> +++ b/builtin/fast-export.c
> @@ -354,6 +354,12 @@ static int depth_first(const void *a_, const void *b_)
>  	int len_a, len_b, len;
>  	int cmp;
>  
> +	/* emit deletions first */
> +	int a_deletes = (a->status == DIFF_STATUS_DELETED);
> +	int b_deletes = (b->status == DIFF_STATUS_DELETED);
> +	if (a_deletes != b_deletes)
> +		return b_deletes - a_deletes;
> +
>  	name_a = a->one ? a->one->path : a->two->path;
>  	name_b = b->one ? b->one->path : b->two->path;
Jeff KingApr 6, 2026, 21:29 UTC in reply to Junio C Hamano on lore

Re: [WIP PATCH] fast-export: emit deletions first

On Mon, Apr 06, 2026 at 10:15:27AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> In any case, it is a bit surprising that fast-export survived this
> long without having encountering the problem you are solving.  I
> wonder if fast-import handles such an output with some smart to
> avoid the issue?
I think it has come up a few times, but we never actually applied a fix:
  2015: https://lore.kernel.org/git/alpine.DEB.2.10.1508191532330.31851@buzzword-bingo.mit.edu/
  2017: https://lore.kernel.org/git/1493079137-1838-1-git-send-email-miguel.torroja@gmail.com/
  2023: https://lore.kernel.org/git/BBB169A5-0665-47C9-819B-6409A22AB699@lanl.gov/

Looks like discussion got hung up on ordering other types of modifications, like renames (which can actually have cycles). But I don't see anything to contradict the view that putting deletions first solves real problems and would not harm anything. And the answer to "it hurts to fast-export with renames" is probably "don't do it".

It's also possible that sorting should be the responsibility of the receiver. I.e., should fast-import see:

  M 100644 :blob_label a/b
  D a

and figure it out? Or maybe we want both (to help other consumers of fast-export, but also to help fast-import when consuming output of other sources).

-Peff
Elijah NewrenApr 6, 2026, 21:44 UTC in reply to Jeff King on lore

Re: [WIP PATCH] fast-export: emit deletions first

On Mon, Apr 6, 2026 at 2:29 PM Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
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>
> On Mon, Apr 06, 2026 at 10:15:27AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>
> > In any case, it is a bit surprising that fast-export survived this
> > long without having encountering the problem you are solving.  I
> > wonder if fast-import handles such an output with some smart to
> > avoid the issue?
>
> I think it has come up a few times, but we never actually applied a fix:
>
>   2015: https://lore.kernel.org/git/alpine.DEB.2.10.1508191532330.31851@buzzword-bingo.mit.edu/
>   2017: https://lore.kernel.org/git/1493079137-1838-1-git-send-email-miguel.torroja@gmail.com/
>   2023: https://lore.kernel.org/git/BBB169A5-0665-47C9-819B-6409A22AB699@lanl.gov/
>
> Looks like discussion got hung up on ordering other types of
> modifications, like renames (which can actually have cycles). But I
> don't see anything to contradict the view that putting deletions first
> solves real problems and would not harm anything. And the answer to "it
> hurts to fast-export with renames" is probably "don't do it".
>
> It's also possible that sorting should be the responsibility of the
> receiver. I.e., should fast-import see:
>
>   M 100644 :blob_label a/b
>   D a
>
> and figure it out? Or maybe we want both (to help other consumers of
> fast-export, but also to help fast-import when consuming output of other
> sources).

Would re-ordering on fast-import's side introduce bugs or violate user's assumptions? Right now, fast-import has no check to prevent more than one command for the same pathname being given, and has a last-entry-wins ruling. Thus filemodify PATH followed by filedelete PATH gives different results than reversing the order. Most probably wouldn't care or want to ever do that, but I could see it as a way of allowing you to change your mind in the stream and override an earlier directive you sent.

Further, from this paragraph: ``` Zero or more `filemodify`, `filedelete`, `filecopy`, `filerename`, `filedeleteall` and `notemodify` commands may be included to update the contents of the branch prior to creating the commit. These commands may be supplied in any order. However it is recommended that a `filedeleteall` command precede all `filemodify`, `filecopy`, `filerename` and `notemodify` commands in the same commit, as `filedeleteall` wipes the branch clean (see below). ``` the comment about ordering with `filedeleteall` does suggest that ordering matters to fast-import and thus perhaps that we shouldn't be messing with the order the stream-writer gave us.

On the creator side, I agree that fast-export would definitely want to sort its deletes before modifies to avoid D/F conflict issues. That doesn't help with renames, but I agree with you that the answer for renames is probably "then don't do that."

Raymond E. PascoApr 7, 2026, 01:12 UTC in reply to Junio C Hamano on lore

Re: [WIP PATCH] fast-export: emit deletions first

On 26/04/06 10:15AM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> In any case, it is a bit surprising that fast-export survived this
> long without having encountering the problem you are solving.  I
> wonder if fast-import handles such an output with some smart to
> avoid the issue?

I was surprised too. The case where this was encountered was a repo that had a directory symlink, and promoted it to a real directory, but the symlink turned out to be a red herring, it's purely path prefixes.

fast-import itself just does things in the order given; you might rename with copy followed by delete (though 'R'ename was added at some point). It's on the stream author for this to make sense; fast-export doesn't use this pattern.

Jeff KingApr 7, 2026, 04:24 UTC in reply to Elijah Newren on lore

Re: [WIP PATCH] fast-export: emit deletions first

On Mon, Apr 06, 2026 at 02:44:05PM -0700, Elijah Newren wrote:
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> > It's also possible that sorting should be the responsibility of the
> > receiver. I.e., should fast-import see:
> >
> >   M 100644 :blob_label a/b
> >   D a
> >
> > and figure it out? Or maybe we want both (to help other consumers of
> > fast-export, but also to help fast-import when consuming output of other
> > sources).
> 
> Would re-ordering on fast-import's side introduce bugs or violate
> user's assumptions?  Right now, fast-import has no check to prevent
> more than one command for the same pathname being given, and has a
> last-entry-wins ruling.  Thus filemodify PATH followed by filedelete
> PATH gives different results than reversing the order.  Most probably
> wouldn't care or want to ever do that, but I could see it as a way of
> allowing you to change your mind in the stream and override an earlier
> directive you sent.

Hmm, good point. It probably is better to leave the reading side as-is, then, to be on the safe side.

-Peff
Jeff KingApr 7, 2026, 04:26 UTC in reply to Raymond E. Pasco on lore

Re: [WIP PATCH] fast-export: emit deletions first

On Mon, Apr 06, 2026 at 09:12:19PM -0400, Raymond E. Pasco wrote:
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> On 26/04/06 10:15AM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> > In any case, it is a bit surprising that fast-export survived this
> > long without having encountering the problem you are solving.  I
> > wonder if fast-import handles such an output with some smart to
> > avoid the issue?
> 
> I was surprised too. The case where this was encountered was a repo
> that had a directory symlink, and promoted it to a real directory,
> but the symlink turned out to be a red herring, it's purely path
> prefixes.

That's the original case from 2015, too. Which I guess is not too surprising, since it's probably a more common conversion than a true directory-into-file. There was a patch with a test provided in one of the threads I linked earlier, in case that helps, but it is pretty easy to write a new one.

-Peff
Raymond E. PascoApr 7, 2026, 21:28 UTC in reply to Elijah Newren on lore

Re: [WIP PATCH] fast-export: emit deletions first

On 26/04/06 02:44PM, Elijah Newren wrote:
> On the creator side, I agree that fast-export would definitely want to
> sort its deletes before modifies to avoid D/F conflict issues.  That
> doesn't help with renames, but I agree with you that the answer for
> renames is probably "then don't do that."

fast-export does force 'R'enames (of a to b) to appear after other lines operating on a, 4ce6fb80 (fast-export: ensure that a renamed file is printed after all references).

I think all Ds first works for the patterns fast-export actually uses. According to a comment, the reason it's sorting by depth at all is a subset of this, to put D a/b before M 120000 a, or similar.

The additional roundtripping tests I'm writing should handle all this, I hope. I think now is a good time to get round-trips down, since people might potentially use fast-export | fast-import to switch hash functions (when commit and tag resigning are fully in fast-import).

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