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Subject: [PATCH v3 1/2] refs: support obtaining ref_store for given dir

## tl;dr

7 messages between Dec 1, 2025 and Jan 22, 2026. Diffs are folded; open one to read it.

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Karthik Nayak· Dec 1, 2025, 11:24 UTC · lore

[PATCH v3 0/2] refs: allow setting the reference directory

While Git allows users to select different reference backends, unlike with objects, there is no flexibility in selecting the reference directory. Currently, the reference format is obtained from the config of the repository and the reference directory is set to the $GIT_DIR.

This patch series adds a new ENV variable 'GIT_REF_URI' which takes the reference backend and path in a URI form:

    <reference_backend>://<URI-for-resource>
For e.g. 'reftable:///foo' or 'files://$GIT_DIR/ref_migration.0xBsa0'.

One use case for this is migration between different backends. On the server side, migrating from the files backend to the newly introduced reftable backend can be achieved by running 'git refs migrate'. However, for large repositories with millions of references, this migration can take from seconds to minutes.

For some background, at GitLab, the criteria for our migration was to reduce the downtime of the migrate ideally to zero. So running 'git refs migrate --ref-format=reftable' by itself wouldn't work, since it scales with the number of references and we have repos with millions of references, so we need to migrate without loosing any information. We came up with the following plan:

  1. Run git-pack-refs(1) and note timestamp of the generated packed-refs
     file.
  2. Run git refs migrate –dry-run.
  3. If there are no ongoing reference requests (read/write)
     a. Lock the repository by blocking incoming requests (done on a
        layer above git, in Gitaly [1]).
     b. If the timestamp of the packed-refs file has changed, unlock
        the repo and repeat from step 1.
     c. Apply all the loose refs to the dry-run reftable folder (this
        requires support in Git to write refs to arbitrary folder).
     d. Move the reftable dry-run folder into the GIT_DIR.
     e. Swap the repo config
     f. Unlock repo access

Using such a route, scales much better since we only have to worry about blocking the repository by O(ref written between #1 and #3a) and not O(refs in repo). But for doing so, we need to be able to write to a arbitrary reference backend + path. This is to add the missing references to the dry-run reftable folder. This series, achieves that.

The first commit adds the required changes to create a 'ref_store' for a given path. The second commit parses the URI if available when creating the main ref store.

This is based on top of 9a2fb147f2 (Git 2.52, 2025-11-17).
[1]: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitaly
---
Changes in v3:
- Cleanup some stale code which wasn't removed.
- Localize strings which will be output to the user.
- Remove additional defensive checks which are not needed.
- Link to v2: https://patch.msgid.link/20251126-kn-alternate-ref-dir-v2-0-8b9f6f18f635@gmail.com
Changes in v2:
- Added more clarification and proper intent in the cover message.
- Changed the format from '<ref_backend>://<path>' to
  `<ref_backend>://<URI-for-resource>` as it much clearer.
- Added logic to check for the '//' in the provided URI and a test for
  the same.
- In the tests:
  - Use test_must_fail() instead of ! git
  - Fix looped tests not using the variables correctly and ensure that
    the test description is correct.
- Link to v1: https://patch.msgid.link/20251119-kn-alternate-ref-dir-v1-0-4cf4a94c8bed@gmail.com
---
 Documentation/git.adoc |   8 ++++
 environment.h          |   1 +
 refs.c                 |  68 +++++++++++++++++++++++++--
 t/meson.build          |   1 +
 t/t1423-ref-backend.sh | 121 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 5 files changed, 196 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
Karthik Nayak (2):
      refs: support obtaining ref_store for given dir
      refs: add GIT_REF_URI to specify reference backend and directory
Range-diff versus v2:
1:  5d37b2f0be = 1:  2b65f93e56 refs: support obtaining ref_store for given dir
2:  493c7ca098 ! 2:  d5dbb2f112 refs: add GIT_REF_URI to specify reference backend and directory
    @@ refs.c: static struct ref_store *get_ref_store_for_dir(struct repository *r,
     +	char *format_string;
     +	char *dir;
     +
    -+	if (!uri || !uri[0]) {
    -+		error("reference backend uri is empty");
    ++	if (!uri) {
    ++		error(_("reference backend uri is not provided"));
     +		goto cleanup;
     +	}
     +
     +	if (string_list_split(&ref_backend_info, uri, ":", 2) != 2) {
    -+		error("invalid reference backend uri format '%s'", uri);
    ++		error(_("invalid reference backend uri format '%s'"), uri);
     +		goto cleanup;
     +	}
     +
     +	format_string = ref_backend_info.items[0].string;
     +	if (!starts_with(ref_backend_info.items[1].string, "//")) {
    -+		error("invalid reference backend uri format '%s'", uri);
    ++		error(_("invalid reference backend uri format '%s'"), uri);
     +		goto cleanup;
     +	}
     +	dir = ref_backend_info.items[1].string + 2;
     +
    -+	format_string = ref_backend_info.items[0].string;
    -+	dir = ref_backend_info.items[1].string + 2;
    -+
    -+	if (!dir || !dir[0]) {
    -+		error("invalid path in uri '%s'", uri);
    ++	if (!dir[0]) {
    ++		error(_("invalid path in uri '%s'"), uri);
     +		goto cleanup;
     +	}
     +
     +	format = ref_storage_format_by_name(format_string);
     +	if (format == REF_STORAGE_FORMAT_UNKNOWN) {
    -+		error("unknown reference backend '%s'", format_string);
    ++		error(_("unknown reference backend '%s'"), format_string);
     +		goto cleanup;
     +	}
     +
    @@ t/t1423-ref-backend.sh (new)
     +		GIT_REF_URI="" &&
     +		export GIT_REF_URI &&
     +		test_must_fail git refs list 2>err &&
    -+		test_grep "reference backend uri is empty" err
    ++		test_grep "invalid reference backend uri format" err
     +	)
     +'
     +

base-commit: 9a2fb147f2c61d0cab52c883e7e26f5b7948e3ed change-id: 20251105-kn-alternate-ref-dir-3e572e8cd0ef

Thanks
- Karthik
Karthik Nayak· Dec 1, 2025, 11:24 UTC · re: Karthik Nayak · lore

The refs subsystem uses the `get_main_ref_store()` to obtain the main ref_store for a given repository. In the upcoming patches we also want to create a ref_store for any given reference directory, which may exist in arbitrary paths. For the files backend and the reftable backend, the reference directory is generally the $GIT_DIR.

To support such behavior, extract out the core logic for creating out the ref_store from `get_main_ref_store()` into a new function `get_ref_store_for_dir()` which can provide the ref_store for a given (repository, directory, reference format) combination.

Signed-off-by: Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>
---
 refs.c | 13 ++++++++++---
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
Show changes to refs.c +10 −3
diff --git a/refs.c b/refs.c
index 965381367e..23f46867f2 100644
--- a/refs.c
+++ b/refs.c
@@ -2177,6 +2177,15 @@ void ref_store_release(struct ref_store *ref_store)
 	free(ref_store->gitdir);
 }
 
+static struct ref_store *get_ref_store_for_dir(struct repository *r,
+					       char *dir,
+					       enum ref_storage_format format)
+{
+	struct ref_store *ref_store = ref_store_init(r, format, dir,
+						     REF_STORE_ALL_CAPS);
+	return maybe_debug_wrap_ref_store(dir, ref_store);
+}
+
 struct ref_store *get_main_ref_store(struct repository *r)
 {
 	if (r->refs_private)
@@ -2185,9 +2194,7 @@ struct ref_store *get_main_ref_store(struct repository *r)
 	if (!r->gitdir)
 		BUG("attempting to get main_ref_store outside of repository");
 
-	r->refs_private = ref_store_init(r, r->ref_storage_format,
-					 r->gitdir, REF_STORE_ALL_CAPS);
-	r->refs_private = maybe_debug_wrap_ref_store(r->gitdir, r->refs_private);
+	r->refs_private = get_ref_store_for_dir(r, r->gitdir, r->ref_storage_format);
 	return r->refs_private;
 }
 
-- 
2.51.2
Karthik Nayak· Dec 1, 2025, 11:24 UTC · re: Karthik Nayak · lore

[PATCH v3 2/2] refs: add GIT_REF_URI to specify reference backend and directory

Git allows setting a different object directory via 'GIT_OBJECT_DIRECTORY', but provides no equivalent for references. This asymmetry makes it difficult to test different reference backends or use alternative reference storage locations without modifying the repository structure.

Add a new environment variable 'GIT_REF_URI' that specifies both the reference backend and directory path using a URI format:

    <ref_backend>://<URI-for-resource>

When set, this variable is used to obtain the main reference store for all Git commands. The variable is checked in `get_main_ref_store()` when lazily assigning `repo->refs_private`. We cannot initialize this earlier in `repo_set_gitdir()` because the repository's hash algorithm isn't known at that point, and the reftable backend requires this information during initialization.

When used with worktrees, the specified directory is treated as the reference directory for all worktree operations.

Add a new test file 't1423-ref-backend.sh' to test this environment variable.

Helped-by: Jean-Noël Avila <jn.avila@free.fr>
Signed-off-by: Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com>
---
 Documentation/git.adoc |   8 ++++
 environment.h          |   1 +
 refs.c                 |  57 ++++++++++++++++++++++-
 t/meson.build          |   1 +
 t/t1423-ref-backend.sh | 121 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 5 files changed, 187 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
Show changes to 5 files +187 −1

Documentation/git.adoc, environment.h, refs.c, t/meson.build, t/t1423-ref-backend.sh

diff --git a/Documentation/git.adoc b/Documentation/git.adoc
index ce099e78b8..8c6a3f6042 100644
--- a/Documentation/git.adoc
+++ b/Documentation/git.adoc
@@ -584,6 +584,14 @@ double-quotes and respecting backslash escapes. E.g., the value
 	repositories will be set to this value. The default is "files".
 	See `--ref-format` in linkgit:git-init[1].
 
+`GIT_REF_URI`::
+    Specify which reference backend to be used along with its URI. Reference
+    backends like the files, reftable backend use the $GIT_DIR as their URI.
++
+Expects the format `<ref_backend>://<URI-for-resource>`, where the
+_<ref_backend>_ specifies the reference backend and the _<URI-for-resource>_
+specifies the URI used by the backend.
+
 Git Commits
 ~~~~~~~~~~~
 `GIT_AUTHOR_NAME`::
diff --git a/environment.h b/environment.h
index 51898c99cd..9bc380bba4 100644
--- a/environment.h
+++ b/environment.h
@@ -42,6 +42,7 @@
 #define GIT_OPTIONAL_LOCKS_ENVIRONMENT "GIT_OPTIONAL_LOCKS"
 #define GIT_TEXT_DOMAIN_DIR_ENVIRONMENT "GIT_TEXTDOMAINDIR"
 #define GIT_ATTR_SOURCE_ENVIRONMENT "GIT_ATTR_SOURCE"
+#define GIT_REF_URI_ENVIRONMENT "GIT_REF_URI"
 
 /*
  * Environment variable used to propagate the --no-advice global option to the
diff --git a/refs.c b/refs.c
index 23f46867f2..da76e0c54a 100644
--- a/refs.c
+++ b/refs.c
@@ -2186,15 +2186,70 @@ static struct ref_store *get_ref_store_for_dir(struct repository *r,
 	return maybe_debug_wrap_ref_store(dir, ref_store);
 }
 
+static struct ref_store *get_ref_store_from_uri(struct repository *repo,
+						const char *uri)
+{
+	struct string_list ref_backend_info = STRING_LIST_INIT_DUP;
+	enum ref_storage_format format;
+	struct ref_store *store = NULL;
+	char *format_string;
+	char *dir;
+
+	if (!uri) {
+		error(_("reference backend uri is not provided"));
+		goto cleanup;
+	}
+
+	if (string_list_split(&ref_backend_info, uri, ":", 2) != 2) {
+		error(_("invalid reference backend uri format '%s'"), uri);
+		goto cleanup;
+	}
+
+	format_string = ref_backend_info.items[0].string;
+	if (!starts_with(ref_backend_info.items[1].string, "//")) {
+		error(_("invalid reference backend uri format '%s'"), uri);
+		goto cleanup;
+	}
+	dir = ref_backend_info.items[1].string + 2;
+
+	if (!dir[0]) {
+		error(_("invalid path in uri '%s'"), uri);
+		goto cleanup;
+	}
+
+	format = ref_storage_format_by_name(format_string);
+	if (format == REF_STORAGE_FORMAT_UNKNOWN) {
+		error(_("unknown reference backend '%s'"), format_string);
+		goto cleanup;
+	}
+
+	store = get_ref_store_for_dir(repo, dir, format);
+
+cleanup:
+	string_list_clear(&ref_backend_info, 0);
+	return store;
+}
+
 struct ref_store *get_main_ref_store(struct repository *r)
 {
+	char *ref_uri;
+
 	if (r->refs_private)
 		return r->refs_private;
 
 	if (!r->gitdir)
 		BUG("attempting to get main_ref_store outside of repository");
 
-	r->refs_private = get_ref_store_for_dir(r, r->gitdir, r->ref_storage_format);
+	ref_uri = getenv(GIT_REF_URI_ENVIRONMENT);
+	if (ref_uri) {
+		r->refs_private = get_ref_store_from_uri(r, ref_uri);
+		if (!r->refs_private)
+			die("failed to initialize ref store from URI: %s", ref_uri);
+
+	} else {
+		r->refs_private = get_ref_store_for_dir(r, r->gitdir,
+							r->ref_storage_format);
+	}
 	return r->refs_private;
 }
 
diff --git a/t/meson.build b/t/meson.build
index a5531df415..a66f8fafff 100644
--- a/t/meson.build
+++ b/t/meson.build
@@ -208,6 +208,7 @@ integration_tests = [
   't1420-lost-found.sh',
   't1421-reflog-write.sh',
   't1422-show-ref-exists.sh',
+  't1423-ref-backend.sh',
   't1430-bad-ref-name.sh',
   't1450-fsck.sh',
   't1451-fsck-buffer.sh',
diff --git a/t/t1423-ref-backend.sh b/t/t1423-ref-backend.sh
new file mode 100755
index 0000000000..f36125bf64
--- /dev/null
+++ b/t/t1423-ref-backend.sh
@@ -0,0 +1,121 @@
+#!/bin/sh
+
+test_description='Test different reference backend URIs'
+
+. ./test-lib.sh
+
+test_expect_success 'empty uri provided' '
+	test_when_finished "rm -rf repo" &&
+	git init --ref-format=files repo &&
+	(
+		cd repo &&
+		GIT_REF_URI="" &&
+		export GIT_REF_URI &&
+		test_must_fail git refs list 2>err &&
+		test_grep "invalid reference backend uri format" err
+	)
+'
+
+test_expect_success 'invalid uri provided' '
+	test_when_finished "rm -rf repo" &&
+	git init --ref-format=files repo &&
+	(
+		cd repo &&
+		GIT_REF_URI="reftable@/home/reftable" &&
+		export GIT_REF_URI &&
+		test_must_fail git refs list 2>err &&
+		test_grep "invalid reference backend uri format" err
+	)
+'
+
+test_expect_success 'empty path in uri' '
+	test_when_finished "rm -rf repo" &&
+	git init --ref-format=files repo &&
+	(
+		cd repo &&
+		GIT_REF_URI="reftable://" &&
+		export GIT_REF_URI &&
+		test_must_fail git refs list 2>err &&
+		test_grep "invalid path in uri" err
+	)
+'
+
+test_expect_success 'uri ends at colon' '
+	test_when_finished "rm -rf repo" &&
+	git init --ref-format=files repo &&
+	(
+		cd repo &&
+		GIT_REF_URI="reftable:" &&
+		export GIT_REF_URI &&
+		test_must_fail git refs list 2>err &&
+		test_grep "invalid reference backend uri format" err
+	)
+'
+
+test_expect_success 'unknown reference backend' '
+	test_when_finished "rm -rf repo" &&
+	git init --ref-format=files repo &&
+	(
+		cd repo &&
+		GIT_REF_URI="db://.git" &&
+		export GIT_REF_URI &&
+		test_must_fail git refs list 2>err &&
+		test_grep "unknown reference backend" err
+	)
+'
+
+ref_formats="files reftable"
+for from_format in $ref_formats
+do
+	for to_format in $ref_formats
+	do
+		if test "$from_format" = "$to_format"
+		then
+			continue
+		fi
+
+		test_expect_success "read from $to_format backend" '
+			test_when_finished "rm -rf repo" &&
+			git init --ref-format=$from_format repo &&
+			(
+				cd repo &&
+				test_commit 1 &&
+				test_commit 2 &&
+				test_commit 3 &&
+
+				git refs migrate --dry-run --ref-format=$to_format >out &&
+				BACKEND_PATH=$(cat out | sed "s/.* ${SQ}\(.*\)${SQ}/\1/") &&
+				git refs list >expect &&
+				GIT_REF_URI="$to_format://$BACKEND_PATH" git refs list >actual &&
+				test_cmp expect actual
+			)
+		'
+
+		test_expect_success "write to $to_format backend" '
+			test_when_finished "rm -rf repo" &&
+			git init --ref-format=$from_format repo &&
+			(
+				cd repo &&
+				test_commit 1 &&
+				test_commit 2 &&
+				test_commit 3 &&
+
+				git refs migrate --dry-run --ref-format=$to_format >out &&
+				git refs list >expect &&
+
+				BACKEND_PATH=$(cat out | sed "s/.* ${SQ}\(.*\)${SQ}/\1/") &&
+				GIT_REF_URI="$to_format://$BACKEND_PATH" git tag -d 1 &&
+
+				git refs list >actual &&
+				test_cmp expect actual &&
+
+				GIT_REF_URI="$to_format://$BACKEND_PATH" git refs list >expect &&
+				git refs list >out &&
+				cat out | grep -v "refs/tags/1" >actual &&
+				test_cmp expect actual
+			)
+		'
+	done
+done
+
+test_done
-- 
2.51.2
Patrick Steinhardt· Jan 5, 2026, 15:13 UTC · re: Karthik Nayak · lore

Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] refs: allow setting the reference directory

On Mon, Dec 01, 2025 at 12:24:57PM +0100, Karthik Nayak wrote:
Show 5 quoted lines
> Changes in v3:
> - Cleanup some stale code which wasn't removed.
> - Localize strings which will be output to the user.
> - Remove additional defensive checks which are not needed.
> - Link to v2: https://patch.msgid.link/20251126-kn-alternate-ref-dir-v2-0-8b9f6f18f635@gmail.com
FYI: I did an internal review of this at [1] and mentioned a couple of
things that I think still need to be iterated on. Most importantly, I
think that we also need to handle worktrees:
    I think we need to do something about worktree ref stores in the
    context of this series, as we're now thinking a bit broader than
    before. It would be somewhat weird if you can change the main
    reference store, but it doesn't have any influence on the worktree
    ref stores. If I say e.g. that the ref store is located in
    `/tmp/dir`, then I'd expect that the main ref store would be in
    `/tmp/dir/refs` and that worktree refs are in
    `/tmp/dir/worktrees/$name/refs`.
    The reason I think this needs to be handled as part of this MR is
    that we are extending semantics of the extension now. This is only
    possible because the extensions are quite strict now, and thus we
    can strictly extend them. But once we have extended them we cannot
    just alter their semantics to also cover worktree refs.

So you can expect another iteration of this patch series once folks settle into their usual post-holiday rhythms again :)

Patrick
[1]: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/git/-/merge_requests/451
Karthik Nayak· Jan 5, 2026, 20:13 UTC · re: Patrick Steinhardt · lore

Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] refs: allow setting the reference directory

Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
Show 32 quoted lines
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2025 at 12:24:57PM +0100, Karthik Nayak wrote:
>> Changes in v3:
>> - Cleanup some stale code which wasn't removed.
>> - Localize strings which will be output to the user.
>> - Remove additional defensive checks which are not needed.
>> - Link to v2: https://patch.msgid.link/20251126-kn-alternate-ref-dir-v2-0-8b9f6f18f635@gmail.com
>
> FYI: I did an internal review of this at [1] and mentioned a couple of
> things that I think still need to be iterated on. Most importantly, I
> think that we also need to handle worktrees:
>
>     I think we need to do something about worktree ref stores in the
>     context of this series, as we're now thinking a bit broader than
>     before. It would be somewhat weird if you can change the main
>     reference store, but it doesn't have any influence on the worktree
>     ref stores. If I say e.g. that the ref store is located in
>     `/tmp/dir`, then I'd expect that the main ref store would be in
>     `/tmp/dir/refs` and that worktree refs are in
>     `/tmp/dir/worktrees/$name/refs`.
>
>     The reason I think this needs to be handled as part of this MR is
>     that we are extending semantics of the extension now. This is only
>     possible because the extensions are quite strict now, and thus we
>     can strictly extend them. But once we have extended them we cannot
>     just alter their semantics to also cover worktree refs.
>
> So you can expect another iteration of this patch series once folks
> settle into their usual post-holiday rhythms again :)
>
> Patrick
>
> [1]: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/git/-/merge_requests/451

Thanks for putting that here. I did reply to one of Junio's what's cooking emails [1] stating the same (mostly that I'm on vacation) and that the topic isn't abandoned but would be delayed.

I've been looking at this with a fresh set of eyes post vacation. One of the things I still need to solve is around how this works with Git directory detection.

The current implementation works because it hijacks the refs initialization to set the new reference directory. But this assumes that the repository has a 'refs/' folder and 'HEAD' file within the $GITDIR.

So if we want this to work with worktrees the way that Patrick mentioned, we'd have to create the worktree reference path within the provided reference storage path. But this would mean that the $GITDIR for the worktree wouldn't be initialized with the required files currently required for being a valid Git directory.

The issue is that config parsing is only done post Git directory detection. One hacky fix is to create a dummy 'refs/' folder and 'HEAD' file within the $GITDIR, similar to how the 'reftable does it. I'm not a big fan of adding something like that. Would be curious if anyone has further thoughts on this.

[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/git/CAOLa=ZTeEEntiQdCnDd6B8a_ppJrrZqdURhQJV=bNktnp0JqMw@mail.gmail.com/
Junio C Hamano· Jan 20, 2026, 21:03 UTC · re: Karthik Nayak · lore

Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] refs: allow setting the reference directory

Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com> writes:
Show 14 quoted lines
>> FYI: I did an internal review of this at [1] and mentioned a couple of
>> things that I think still need to be iterated on. Most importantly, I
>> think that we also need to handle worktrees:
>> ...
>> So you can expect another iteration of this patch series once folks
>> settle into their usual post-holiday rhythms again :)
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>> [1]: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/git/-/merge_requests/451
>
> Thanks for putting that here. I did reply to one of Junio's what's
> cooking emails [1] stating the same (mostly that I'm on vacation) and that
> the topic isn't abandoned but would be delayed.

OK. The topic has been marked as [Stalled] and I'll probably eject it from 'seen' soonish to declutter my tree, but it does not mean a renewed effort on the same topic is unwelcome. "Dismissed without prejudice" so to speak.

Thanks.
Karthik Nayak· Jan 22, 2026, 12:36 UTC · re: Junio C Hamano · lore

Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] refs: allow setting the reference directory

Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
Show 23 quoted lines
> Karthik Nayak <karthik.188@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>> FYI: I did an internal review of this at [1] and mentioned a couple of
>>> things that I think still need to be iterated on. Most importantly, I
>>> think that we also need to handle worktrees:
>>> ...
>>> So you can expect another iteration of this patch series once folks
>>> settle into their usual post-holiday rhythms again :)
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> [1]: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/git/-/merge_requests/451
>>
>> Thanks for putting that here. I did reply to one of Junio's what's
>> cooking emails [1] stating the same (mostly that I'm on vacation) and that
>> the topic isn't abandoned but would be delayed.
>
> OK.  The topic has been marked as [Stalled] and I'll probably eject
> it from 'seen' soonish to declutter my tree, but it does not mean a
> renewed effort on the same topic is unwelcome.  "Dismissed without
> prejudice" so to speak.
>
> Thanks.
Yeah I understand, I'm still working on it, but it has been a while.
Thanks

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