# Shallow clone support in v3.0 and beyond?

3 messages from 2025-08-25 to 2025-09-10. Participants: Bagas Sanjaya, Patrick Steinhardt.
Thread: https://gitlist.dev/t/64032

## Bagas Sanjaya, 2025-08-25 23:34

Subject: Shallow clone support in v3.0 and beyond?
Message-ID: <aKzy6naLtdeq7Tgn@archie.me>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/aKzy6naLtdeq7Tgn%40archie.me

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Hi,

Askar Safin <safinaskar@zohomail.com> posted on the ML about his complaints
regarding grafts removal in v3.0+ (see [1] for the full thread). He also
briefly mentioned future of shallow clones (aka git clone --depth=1).

The question is: If grafts support is removed, then how can shallow clones
be implemented in terms of git-replace(1)? What about its implementation
details? How about unshallowing (git fetch --unshallow)?

Thanks.

[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/git/198c29e9058.119e3a5c065010.5888624019176274871@zohomail.com/T/#t

-- 
An old man doll... just what I always wanted! - Clara

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## Patrick Steinhardt, 2025-09-10 11:08

Subject: Re: Shallow clone support in v3.0 and beyond?
Message-ID: <aMFcH2nfKO-DZcwm@pks.im>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/aMFcH2nfKO-DZcwm%40pks.im
In-Reply-To: <aKzy6naLtdeq7Tgn@archie.me>

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Hi,

On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 06:34:02AM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Askar Safin <safinaskar@zohomail.com> posted on the ML about his complaints
> regarding grafts removal in v3.0+ (see [1] for the full thread). He also
> briefly mentioned future of shallow clones (aka git clone --depth=1).
> 
> The question is: If grafts support is removed, then how can shallow clones
> be implemented in terms of git-replace(1)? What about its implementation
> details? How about unshallowing (git fetch --unshallow)?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/git/198c29e9058.119e3a5c065010.5888624019176274871@zohomail.com/T/#t

I think the BreakingChanges document could use a revamp in that regard.
The mechanism used to implement shallow clones is of course _not_ going
away, and the internal mechanism to facilitate this will go away.

So the intention really only to remove ".git/info/grafts" as a
user-visible mechanism. Users should exclusively use git-replace(1).

Patrick

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## Bagas Sanjaya, 2025-09-10 11:13

Subject: Re: Shallow clone support in v3.0 and beyond?
Message-ID: <dca4e74e-26ae-401d-bac9-f8b6f13296ef@gmail.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/dca4e74e-26ae-401d-bac9-f8b6f13296ef%40gmail.com
In-Reply-To: <aMFcH2nfKO-DZcwm@pks.im>

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On 9/10/25 18:08, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 06:34:02AM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Askar Safin <safinaskar@zohomail.com> posted on the ML about his complaints
>> regarding grafts removal in v3.0+ (see [1] for the full thread). He also
>> briefly mentioned future of shallow clones (aka git clone --depth=1).
>>
>> The question is: If grafts support is removed, then how can shallow clones
>> be implemented in terms of git-replace(1)? What about its implementation
>> details? How about unshallowing (git fetch --unshallow)?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/git/198c29e9058.119e3a5c065010.5888624019176274871@zohomail.com/T/#t
> 
> I think the BreakingChanges document could use a revamp in that regard.
> The mechanism used to implement shallow clones is of course _not_ going
> away, and the internal mechanism to facilitate this will go away.
> 
> So the intention really only to remove ".git/info/grafts" as a
> user-visible mechanism. Users should exclusively use git-replace(1).

OK, thanks!

-- 
An old man doll... just what I always wanted! - Clara

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