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Git "Keeping Original Dates"

Subject: Git "Keeping Original Dates"

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Hector Santos· Jun 5, 2017, 21:14 UTC · lore

I'm implementing GIT. If there an option or compile/version that "keep" file timestamps?

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Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason· Jun 5, 2017, 21:27 UTC · re: Hector Santos · lore

Re: Git "Keeping Original Dates"

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 11:14 PM, Hector Santos <winserver.support@winserver.com> wrote:

> I'm implementing GIT.  If there an option or compile/version that "keep"
> file timestamps?

The git datamodel stores files as a list of names and whether or not they have the executable bit.

If you need to set the ctime/mtime/whatever on the other side you'd do that via some script you'd ship with your repository.

This may not answer your question, but it isn't very clear.
Jeff King· Jun 6, 2017, 01:22 UTC · re: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason · lore

Re: Git "Keeping Original Dates"

On Mon, Jun 05, 2017 at 11:27:45PM +0200, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
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> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 11:14 PM, Hector Santos
> <winserver.support@winserver.com> wrote:
> > I'm implementing GIT.  If there an option or compile/version that "keep"
> > file timestamps?
> 
> The git datamodel stores files as a list of names and whether or not
> they have the executable bit.
> 
> If you need to set the ctime/mtime/whatever on the other side you'd do
> that via some script you'd ship with your repository.

There are existing scripts which implement this approach, like metastore:

  https://github.com/przemoc/metastore

I haven't used it, but I think it's fairly mature, as it has been around since the early days of Git.

-Peff
Hector Santos· Jun 6, 2017, 02:43 UTC · re: Jeff King · lore

Re: Git "Keeping Original Dates"

On 6/5/2017 9:22 PM, Jeff King wrote:
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> There are existing scripts which implement this approach, like
> metastore:
>
>    https://github.com/przemoc/metastore
>
> I haven't used it, but I think it's fairly mature, as it has been around
> since the early days of Git.
>
> -Peff
>

I wasn't considering other "metadata" other than time stamps, but I suppose the metadata would include the time stamps, file attributes and possibly "alternate file streams" as well?

Thanks anyway, I will explore it.
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Jason Pyeron· Jun 5, 2017, 21:25 UTC · re: Hector Santos · lore

RE: Git "Keeping Original Dates"

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hector Santos
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 5:14 PM
> 
> I'm implementing GIT.  If there an option or compile/version that "keep"
file timestamps?
That is not in the tree data structure, see below.

root@blackfat /projects/tipsoftheday $ git cat-file -p head tree 4ca3c2a853c8e817d7de8563c331899cace8ee85 parent 2a33f293df6df0d3978612e41fb1ecd52e2450a5 author Jason Pyeron <jpyeron@pdinc.us> 1496424815 -0400 committer Jason Pyeron <jpyeron@pdinc.us> 1496424815 -0400

add JDK to CM

root@blackfat /projects/tipsoftheday $ git cat-file -p 4ca3c2a853c8e817d7de8563c331899cace8ee85 040000 tree 76094b81b3877b5b27cd4fe518fa0708af3cefed admin 040000 tree c66a88871c285e1485f92be0f8fa47185d94d0b3 client 040000 tree 460495af209a580e65b5d0b38132d774ddb283b7 database 040000 tree 264b191b036180039f3fd8c5d56c2b6800cb2ca2 doc 040000 tree dd128195971f7bafa56371aa6027d7c6bc80f351 middleware 040000 tree 7861fd39923950d501d4e39aeac4762f7daaca6b reports 040000 tree 2ad3dedf0313ae775321c88c53741a4b4a7e87b0 tools

I wish it was an allowable extension, the date could be between the mode and object type.

v/r,
Jason Pyeron
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason· Jun 5, 2017, 22:06 UTC · re: Jason Pyeron · lore

Re: Git "Keeping Original Dates"

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Jason Pyeron <jpyeron@pdinc.us> wrote:
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Hector Santos
>> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 5:14 PM
>>
>> I'm implementing GIT.  If there an option or compile/version that "keep"
> file timestamps?
>
> That is not in the tree data structure, see below.
>
> root@blackfat /projects/tipsoftheday
> $ git cat-file -p head
> tree 4ca3c2a853c8e817d7de8563c331899cace8ee85
> parent 2a33f293df6df0d3978612e41fb1ecd52e2450a5
> author Jason Pyeron <jpyeron@pdinc.us> 1496424815 -0400
> committer Jason Pyeron <jpyeron@pdinc.us> 1496424815 -0400
>
> add JDK to CM
>
> root@blackfat /projects/tipsoftheday
> $ git cat-file -p 4ca3c2a853c8e817d7de8563c331899cace8ee85
> 040000 tree 76094b81b3877b5b27cd4fe518fa0708af3cefed    admin
> 040000 tree c66a88871c285e1485f92be0f8fa47185d94d0b3    client
> 040000 tree 460495af209a580e65b5d0b38132d774ddb283b7    database
> 040000 tree 264b191b036180039f3fd8c5d56c2b6800cb2ca2    doc
> 040000 tree dd128195971f7bafa56371aa6027d7c6bc80f351    middleware
> 040000 tree 7861fd39923950d501d4e39aeac4762f7daaca6b    reports
> 040000 tree 2ad3dedf0313ae775321c88c53741a4b4a7e87b0    tools
>
> I wish it was an allowable extension, the date could be between the mode and
> object type.

Yes it's not part of the tree structure, but in this case you can simply set/update the mtime to the date of the last commit that modified the file.

It can be a bit expensive to bootstrap that, and git doesn't help you along at all, you need to do it via hooks or some script you run, but that's a neat way to shove it into the datamodel if you need this for some reason.

Hector Santos· Jun 5, 2017, 23:36 UTC · re: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason · lore

Re: Git "Keeping Original Dates"

On 6/5/2017 6:06 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
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> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Jason Pyeron <jpyeron@pdinc.us> wrote:
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Hector Santos
>>> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 5:14 PM
>>>
>>> I'm implementing GIT.  If there an option or compile/version that "keep"
>> file timestamps?
>>
>> That is not in the tree data structure, see below.
>>
>> root@blackfat /projects/tipsoftheday
>> $ git cat-file -p head
>> tree 4ca3c2a853c8e817d7de8563c331899cace8ee85
>> parent 2a33f293df6df0d3978612e41fb1ecd52e2450a5
>> author Jason Pyeron <jpyeron@pdinc.us> 1496424815 -0400
>> committer Jason Pyeron <jpyeron@pdinc.us> 1496424815 -0400
>>
>> add JDK to CM
>>
>> root@blackfat /projects/tipsoftheday
>> $ git cat-file -p 4ca3c2a853c8e817d7de8563c331899cace8ee85
>> 040000 tree 76094b81b3877b5b27cd4fe518fa0708af3cefed    admin
>> 040000 tree c66a88871c285e1485f92be0f8fa47185d94d0b3    client
>> 040000 tree 460495af209a580e65b5d0b38132d774ddb283b7    database
>> 040000 tree 264b191b036180039f3fd8c5d56c2b6800cb2ca2    doc
>> 040000 tree dd128195971f7bafa56371aa6027d7c6bc80f351    middleware
>> 040000 tree 7861fd39923950d501d4e39aeac4762f7daaca6b    reports
>> 040000 tree 2ad3dedf0313ae775321c88c53741a4b4a7e87b0    tools
>>
>> I wish it was an allowable extension, the date could be between the mode and
>> object type.
> Yes it's not part of the tree structure, but in this case you can
> simply set/update the mtime to the date of the last commit that
> modified the file.
>
> It can be a bit expensive to bootstrap that, and git doesn't help you
> along at all, you need to do it via hooks or some script you run, but
> that's a neat way to shove it into the datamodel if you need this for
> some reason.
>
>

Do you see any technical issues with using programmable hooks or something like this would have to be patched in? I am giving it a serious thought to exploring a fix to the Git Daemon over the wire completion issues on Windows. It appears to be a Half Close socket issue.

-- 
Hector, Engineering & Technical Support
Santronics Software, Inc.
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http://www.winserver.com (support)
http://www.winserver.com/AupInfo (Online AUP Help)
Office: 305-248-3204



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Theodore Ts'o· Jun 6, 2017, 16:09 UTC · re: Hector Santos · lore

Re: Git "Keeping Original Dates"

On Mon, Jun 05, 2017 at 07:36:58PM -0400, Hector Santos wrote:
> Do you see any technical issues with using programmable hooks or something
> like this would have to be patched in? I am giving it a serious thought to
> exploring a fix to the Git Daemon over the wire completion issues on
> Windows. It appears to be a Half Close socket issue.
You can certainly do it with so kind of hook script.  

This is how I do thing to maintain the modtimes for a set of patches that I maintain using guilt (git://repo.or.cz/guilt.git). The following is done using Linux, but I imagine you could translate it into something that would work with powershell, or cygwin, or just use the Windows Subsystem for Linux.

#!/bin/sh stat -c "touch -d @%Y %n" * | sort -k 3 | grep -v "~$" | sort -k3 > timestamps

I have this shell script saved as ~/bin/save-timestamps. The generated file has lines which look this:

touch -d @1496078695 fix-fdatasync-after-extent-manipulation-operations touch -d @1496081597 status touch -d @1496082752 series

... and when you execute the command, it will restore the timestamps to the value checked into the git repository. If you want to only restore the timestamp of a single file, you can do something like this:

grep timestamps ^fix-fdatasync-after-extent | bash
Cheers,
						- Ted
Konstantin Khomoutov· Jun 6, 2017, 07:12 UTC · re: Hector Santos · lore

Re: Git "Keeping Original Dates"

On Mon, Jun 05, 2017 at 05:14:01PM -0400, Hector Santos wrote:
> I'm implementing GIT.  If there an option or compile/version that "keep"
> file timestamps?

Just in case you've missed it, there's an explanation of why Git behaves the way it does in this regard [1].

1.  https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Git_FAQ#Why_isn.27t_Git_preserving_modification_time_on_files.3F

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