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[RFC] Case insensitive Git attributes

Subject: [RFC] Case insensitive Git attributes

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9 messages between Oct 17, 2016 and Oct 17, 2016.

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Lars Schneider· Oct 17, 2016, 01:04 UTC · lore
Hi,

Git attributes for path names are generally case sensitive. However, on a case insensitive file system (e.g. macOS/Windows) they appear to be case insensitive (`*.bar` would match `foo.bar` and `foo.BAR`). That works great until a Git users joins the party with a case sensitive file system. For this Git user only files that match the exact case of the attribute pattern get the attributes (only `foo.bar`).

This inconsistent behavior can confuse Git users. An advanced Git user could use a glob pattern (e.g. `*.[bB][aA][rR]) to match files in a case insensitive way. However, this can get confusing quickly, too.

I wonder if we can do something about this. One idea could be to add an attribute "case-sensitive" (or "caseSensitive") and set it to false (if desired) for all files in .gitattributes for a given repo.

### .gitattributes example ###
* case-sensitive=false
*.bar something
###

I haven't looked into the feasibility of an implementation, yet. However, would that be an acceptable approach?

Thanks, Lars

Stefan Beller· Oct 17, 2016, 03:07 UTC · re: Lars Schneider · lore

Re: [RFC] Case insensitive Git attributes

On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Lars Schneider <larsxschneider@gmail.com> wrote:

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> Hi,
>
> Git attributes for path names are generally case sensitive. However, on
> a case insensitive file system (e.g. macOS/Windows) they appear to be
> case insensitive (`*.bar` would match `foo.bar` and `foo.BAR`). That
> works great until a Git users joins the party with a case sensitive file
> system. For this Git user only files that match the exact case of the
> attribute pattern get the attributes (only `foo.bar`).
>
> This inconsistent behavior can confuse Git users. An advanced Git user
> could use a glob pattern (e.g. `*.[bB][aA][rR]) to match files in a
> case insensitive way. However, this can get confusing quickly, too.
>
> I wonder if we can do something about this. One idea could be to add an
> attribute "case-sensitive" (or "caseSensitive") and set it to false
> (if desired) for all files in .gitattributes for a given repo.
FYI: I am currently refactoring the attr subsystem (e.g.
https://public-inbox.org/git/20161012224109.23410-1-sbeller@google.com/
"attr: convert to new threadsafe API")
>
> ### .gitattributes example ###
>
> * case-sensitive=false

Would this modify the current file only or the whole stack of attrs? (In just one way or the whole stack, i.e. can you add this in .git/info/exclude and the attribute file in the home dir also behaves differently? Or rather the other way round when the system wide attr file enables case insensitivity, each repository local config is set automatically? both ways?)

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> *.bar something
>
> ###
>
> I haven't looked into the feasibility of an implementation, yet. However,
> would that be an acceptable approach?

Conceptually I would prefer if we had a single switch that indicates a case insensitive FS. That could be used for different purposes as well, that are FS relevant such as checking in, checking out/renaming files in the working tree? (does any such switch already exist for case sensitivity?)

Thanks, Stefan

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>
> Thanks,
> Lars
>
>
>
Torsten Bögershausen· Oct 17, 2016, 04:24 UTC · re: Stefan Beller · lore

Re: [RFC] Case insensitive Git attributes

On 17/10/16 05:07, Stefan Beller wrote:
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> On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Lars Schneider
> <larsxschneider@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Git attributes for path names are generally case sensitive. However, on
>> a case insensitive file system (e.g. macOS/Windows) they appear to be
>> case insensitive (`*.bar` would match `foo.bar` and `foo.BAR`).
This feels like a bug:
$ git diff
diff --git a/.gitattributes b/.gitattributes
index 5e98806..1419867 100644
--- a/.gitattributes
+++ b/.gitattributes
@@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
  * whitespace=!indent,trail,space
  *.[ch] whitespace=indent,trail,space
  *.sh whitespace=indent,trail,space
+*.C text

-----------
$ git -c core.ignorecase=false check-attr --all git.c
git.c: whitespace: indent,trail,space

#But running on a case insensitve FS I get:
$ git  check-attr --all git.c
git.c: text: set
git.c: whitespace: indent,trail,space


>> That
>> works great until a Git users joins the party with a case sensitive file
>> system. For this Git user only files that match the exact case of the
>> attribute pattern get the attributes (only `foo.bar`).
>>
>> This inconsistent behavior can confuse Git users. An advanced Git user
>> could use a glob pattern (e.g. `*.[bB][aA][rR]) to match files in a
>> case insensitive way. However, this can get confusing quickly, too.
>>
>> I wonder if we can do something about this. One idea could be to add an
>> attribute "case-sensitive" (or "caseSensitive") and set it to false
>> (if desired) for all files in .gitattributes for a given repo.
> FYI: I am currently refactoring the attr subsystem (e.g.
> https://public-inbox.org/git/20161012224109.23410-1-sbeller@google.com/
> "attr: convert to new threadsafe API")
>
>> ### .gitattributes example ###
>>
>> * case-sensitive=false
How about
* ignorecase=true
  ?

> Would this modify the current file only or the whole stack of attrs?
> (In just one way or the whole stack, i.e. can you add this in .git/info/exclude
> and the attribute file in the home dir also behaves differently? Or rather the
> other way round when the system wide attr file enables case insensitivity,
> each repository local config is set automatically? both ways?)
>
>> *.bar something
>>
>> ###
>>
>> I haven't looked into the feasibility of an implementation, yet. However,
>> would that be an acceptable approach?
> Conceptually I would prefer if we had a single switch that indicates a
> case insensitive FS. That could be used for different purposes as well,
> that are FS relevant such as checking in, checking out/renaming files
> in the working tree? (does any such switch already exist for case
> sensitivity?)
>
> Thanks,
> Stefan
>
>> Thanks,
>> Lars
>>
>>
>>
Johannes Schindelin· Oct 17, 2016, 08:57 UTC · re: Stefan Beller · lore

Re: [RFC] Case insensitive Git attributes

Hi Stefan,
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016, Stefan Beller wrote:
> Conceptually I would prefer if we had a single switch that indicates a
> case insensitive FS.

AFAIU Lars' use case is where the FS is *case sensitive*, but he still needs the .gitattributes to be *case insensitive* because that file originates from a developer with such a file system.

Otherwise he would simply tack onto the core.ignoreCase flag.

Ciao, Dscho

Duy Nguyen· Oct 17, 2016, 09:12 UTC · re: Johannes Schindelin · lore

Re: [RFC] Case insensitive Git attributes

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:

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> Hi Stefan,
>
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2016, Stefan Beller wrote:
>
>> Conceptually I would prefer if we had a single switch that indicates a
>> case insensitive FS.
>
> AFAIU Lars' use case is where the FS is *case sensitive*, but he still
> needs the .gitattributes to be *case insensitive* because that file
> originates from a developer with such a file system.
>
> Otherwise he would simply tack onto the core.ignoreCase flag.

That sounds to me like setting core.ignoreCase to true (on all devs' repo) would "solve" this. Yes core.ignoreCase may introduce some side effects when used on case-sensitive filesystems, so we probably want something in the same spirit but limited to .gitattributes and .gitignore only.

-- 
Duy
Johannes Schindelin· Oct 17, 2016, 10:46 UTC · re: Duy Nguyen · lore

Re: [RFC] Case insensitive Git attributes

Hi Duy,
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016, Duy Nguyen wrote:
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> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Johannes Schindelin
> <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> > Hi Stefan,
> >
> > On Sun, 16 Oct 2016, Stefan Beller wrote:
> >
> >> Conceptually I would prefer if we had a single switch that indicates a
> >> case insensitive FS.
> >
> > AFAIU Lars' use case is where the FS is *case sensitive*, but he still
> > needs the .gitattributes to be *case insensitive* because that file
> > originates from a developer with such a file system.
> >
> > Otherwise he would simply tack onto the core.ignoreCase flag.
> 
> That sounds to me like setting core.ignoreCase to true (on all devs'
> repo) would "solve" this.

It is good that you quoted this verb, because it does not solve things. Instead, it would try to use the flag for two slightly incompatible purposes at the same time.

The first (and so far, only) purpose is to tell Git that the current file system is case insensitive.

The new purpose you described would be to tell Git that the *user* does not care about the file names' case, even if the file system does.

I do not think that this leads to a better situation than before. Instead, I am convinced that it will cause new and sometimes "entertaining" problems because you can no longer discern between those two purposes based on core.ignoreCase, you would have to teach Git to test every single time whether the file system is case-sensitive or not.

Needless to say, I'd rather not see that happening. Many users, including my colleagues and myself, rely on Git being a rock solid piece of software, and that change would make it less so.

Ciao, Dscho

Duy Nguyen· Oct 17, 2016, 11:02 UTC · re: Johannes Schindelin · lore

Re: [RFC] Case insensitive Git attributes

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:

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> Hi Duy,
>
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2016, Duy Nguyen wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Johannes Schindelin
>> <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
>> > Hi Stefan,
>> >
>> > On Sun, 16 Oct 2016, Stefan Beller wrote:
>> >
>> >> Conceptually I would prefer if we had a single switch that indicates a
>> >> case insensitive FS.
>> >
>> > AFAIU Lars' use case is where the FS is *case sensitive*, but he still
>> > needs the .gitattributes to be *case insensitive* because that file
>> > originates from a developer with such a file system.
>> >
>> > Otherwise he would simply tack onto the core.ignoreCase flag.
>>
>> That sounds to me like setting core.ignoreCase to true (on all devs'
>> repo) would "solve" this.
>
> It is good that you quoted this verb, because it does not solve things.
> Instead, it would try to use the flag for two slightly incompatible
> purposes at the same time.
>
> The first (and so far, only) purpose is to tell Git that the current file
> system is case insensitive.
>
> The new purpose you described would be to tell Git that the *user* does
> not care about the file names' case, even if the file system does.
>
> I do not think that this leads to a better situation than before. Instead,
> I am convinced that it will cause new and sometimes "entertaining"
> problems because you can no longer discern between those two purposes
> based on core.ignoreCase, you would have to teach Git to test every single
> time whether the file system is case-sensitive or not.

I agree. Which is why I wrote "we probably want something in the same spirit but limited to .gitattributes and .gitignore only". In other words we could have core.someName that makes .gitattributes and .gitignore patterns case-insensitive (or core-sensitive). If it's present, it overrides core.ignoreCase. If it's not present, core.ignoreCase decides. I'm just not sure if the new config should cover everything involving filename's case in git. That's too big to fit in my head.

> Needless to say, I'd rather not see that happening. Many users, including
> my colleagues and myself, rely on Git being a rock solid piece of
> software, and that change would make it less so.
-- 
Duy
Junio C Hamano· Oct 17, 2016, 17:50 UTC · re: Duy Nguyen · lore

Re: [RFC] Case insensitive Git attributes

Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com> writes:
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> I agree. Which is why I wrote "we probably want something in the same
> spirit but limited to .gitattributes and .gitignore only". In other
> words we could have core.someName that makes .gitattributes and
> .gitignore patterns case-insensitive (or core-sensitive). If it's
> present, it overrides core.ignoreCase. If it's not present,
> core.ignoreCase decides. I'm just not sure if the new config should
> cover everything involving filename's case in git. That's too big to
> fit in my head.

Once I stopped thinking about this as "filename's case", it does fit my head ;-)

I view the proposed knob as making patterns in .gitattributes and .gitignore case insensitive, iow, it is a lazy and useful short-hand for (mentally) editing "*.c attr" to "*.[cC] attr" without touching these files.

And I agree that the knob that is missing in today's Git should default to whatever core.ignoreCase's value is, iow, on case insensitive filesystem, attr and ignore may match case insensitively in today's Git, but when the knob is introduced, it should allow forcing case sensitive match there by setting it to false, just like the knob is proposed to be used in the oppositite direction to force case insensitive match regardless of the case insensitiveness of the underlying filesystem.

Johannes Schindelin· Oct 17, 2016, 08:55 UTC · re: Lars Schneider · lore

Re: [RFC] Case insensitive Git attributes

Hi Lars,
On Sun, 16 Oct 2016, Lars Schneider wrote:
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> One idea could be to add an attribute "case-sensitive" (or
> "caseSensitive") and set it to false (if desired) for all files in
> .gitattributes for a given repo.
> 
> ### .gitattributes example ###
> 
> * case-sensitive=false
> *.bar something
> 
> ###

Hrm. Maybe a better idea would be to warn when attributes match a file name with a different case?

Ciao, Dscho

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