# Re: Cleaning up git user-interface warts 4 messages from 2006-11-16 to 2006-11-20. Participants: Shawn Pearce, Horst H. von Brand, Junio C Hamano, Jakub Narebski. Thread: https://gitlist.dev/t/43240 ## Junio C Hamano, 2006-11-16 11:47 Subject: Re: Cleaning up git user-interface warts Message-ID: <7vslgjaa0c.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/7vslgjaa0c.fsf%40assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net In-Reply-To: <7v7ixvbq80.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> ``` Junio C Hamano writes: > Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > >> [hanwen@haring y]$ git pull ../x >> fatal: Needed a single revision >> Pulling into a black hole? Having said all that, I happen to think that this particular case of pulling into void could deserve to be special cased to pretend it is a fast forward (after all, nothingness is an ancestor of anything), if only to make new people's first experience more pleasant. Working from nothingness is something not usually done in everyday work, so from practical and technical point of view it does not add much _real_ value to the people who actually uses the system, but nevertheless, new people typically start learning the system from either cloned repository (which I believe is covered by the existing tools fairly well) or emptiness (which bitten us here in a bad way), and making the first experience more pleasnt to new people have a positive value of flattening the learning curve. So please consider that this is classified as a bug. ``` ## Horst H. von Brand, 2006-11-20 19:44 Subject: Re: Cleaning up git user-interface warts Message-ID: <200611201944.kAKJiCAw014973@laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/200611201944.kAKJiCAw014973%40laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl In-Reply-To: ``` Junio C Hamano wrote: > Junio C Hamano writes: > > Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > > > >> [hanwen@haring y]$ git pull ../x > >> fatal: Needed a single revision > >> Pulling into a black hole? > > Having said all that, I happen to think that this particular > case of pulling into void could deserve to be special cased to > pretend it is a fast forward (after all, nothingness is an > ancestor of anything), if only to make new people's first > experience more pleasant. If you make pushing into an empty repository work also, you fix the case of "create an empty repo for somebody, let them fill it up remotely later". [...] > So please consider that this is classified as a bug. Thanks! -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 2654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 2654239 ``` ## Shawn Pearce, 2006-11-20 19:46 Subject: Re: Cleaning up git user-interface warts Message-ID: <20061120194637.GB1498@spearce.org> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20061120194637.GB1498%40spearce.org In-Reply-To: <200611201944.kAKJiCAw014973@laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl> ``` "Horst H. von Brand" wrote: > If you make pushing into an empty repository work also, you fix the case of > "create an empty repo for somebody, let them fill it up remotely later". This seems to work just fine now. I do it all of the time. -- ``` ## Jakub Narebski, 2006-11-20 20:02 Subject: Re: Cleaning up git user-interface warts Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/ejt1hi%24niu%241%40sea.gmane.org In-Reply-To: <200611201944.kAKJiCAw014973@laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl> ``` Horst H. von Brand wrote: > Junio C Hamano wrote: >> Junio C Hamano writes: >>> Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: >>> >>>> [hanwen@haring y]$ git pull ../x >>>> fatal: Needed a single revision >>>> Pulling into a black hole? >> >> Having said all that, I happen to think that this particular >> case of pulling into void could deserve to be special cased to >> pretend it is a fast forward (after all, nothingness is an >> ancestor of anything), if only to make new people's first >> experience more pleasant. > > If you make pushing into an empty repository work also, you fix the case of > "create an empty repo for somebody, let them fill it up remotely later". That was only the _pull_ which didn't work in empty repo. Fetch and push worked (and work) just fine with empty repo. -- Jakub Narebski Warsaw, Poland ShadeHawk on #git ```