# RE: how to display file history? 12 messages from 2006-05-15 to 2006-05-21. Participants: Brown, Len, Junio C Hamano, Eric W. Biederman, Linus Torvalds, Marco Costalba, J. Bruce Fields, Jonas Fonseca. Thread: https://gitlist.dev/t/4142 ## Brown, Len, 2006-05-15 06:13 Subject: RE: how to display file history? Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/CFF307C98FEABE47A452B27C06B85BB670F4FD%40hdsmsx411.amr.corp.intel.com ``` > git whatchanged A thanks. I've used this on entire repos before, but for some reason didn't think of this command name when looking for individual file history. Searching git(7) for "history" didn't take me here. Searching for "log" would have, but I must have terminated that search when git-log and git-shortlog turned out to not be what I was looking for. -Len ``` ## Junio C Hamano, 2006-05-15 06:42 Subject: Re: how to display file history? Message-ID: <7v64k7wzzf.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/7v64k7wzzf.fsf%40assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net In-Reply-To: ``` "Brown, Len" writes: > >> git whatchanged A > > thanks. I've used this on entire repos before, but > for some reason didn't think of this command name > when looking for individual file history. Probably with recent enough git, one of git log --stat -- A git log -p -- A git log -p --full-diff -- A might be more pleasant, depending on what you are trying to look for. "A" can be a single file, more than one files, a directory,... ``` ## Eric W. Biederman, 2006-05-15 15:54 Subject: Re: how to display file history? Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/m1ejyv7077.fsf%40ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com In-Reply-To: <7v64k7wzzf.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> ``` Junio C Hamano writes: > "Brown, Len" writes: > >> >>> git whatchanged A >> >> thanks. I've used this on entire repos before, but >> for some reason didn't think of this command name >> when looking for individual file history. > > Probably with recent enough git, one of > > git log --stat -- A > git log -p -- A > git log -p --full-diff -- A > > might be more pleasant, depending on what you are trying to look > for. > > "A" can be a single file, more than one files, a directory,... So that it has a chance of being remembered, and eventually fixed the man pages of git-whatchanged and git-log only sort of tell you that this is even possible. git-whatchanged is certainly worse, but I don't think if I didn't know to look for it I could see the fact that these commands take path names from looking at their man pages. Eric ``` ## Linus Torvalds, 2006-05-15 16:15 Subject: Re: how to display file history? Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/Pine.LNX.4.64.0605150900510.3866%40g5.osdl.org In-Reply-To: ``` On Mon, 15 May 2006, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > So that it has a chance of being remembered, and eventually fixed > the man pages of git-whatchanged and git-log only sort of tell you > that this is even possible. I don't think this is a man-page issue. I think this is a very basic tutorial issue. People still don't seem to realize how flexible (and powerful) the git revision specifications are. It's not just limiting by path, all of these work on _all_ of the "history tools" (whether they be gitk, qgit, "git log", "git whatchanged" or your own home-cooked stuff): - "revision based limiting" "a..b", but also "a ^b ^c ^d" or "a --not b c d" for the more complex case where you're interested in one (or more) commit, but not anything that flows from any of a number of other commits. "--all". - "commit date based limiting" "--since=2.weeks.ago" "--since=aug.5th" - "limit by number of hits" "-15" - "limit by type or state" "--no-merges" and "--unpacked" And finally - "limit by pathname" and you can combine all of these. So gitk --all --since=1.month -15 -- t/ will show at most fifteen commits from _any_ branch that changed the test subdirectory in the last month. And yeah, maybe that isn't a very interesting query, but it's easy to explain and understand, so it's worth explaining early. And it should be equally obvious to everybody that if it works for "gitk", that means that it works for "qgit", "git log" and "git whatchanged" too, ie this is a very core concept, and not just some tacked-on thing for one special tool. Linus ``` ## Eric W. Biederman, 2006-05-15 16:29 Subject: Re: how to display file history? Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/m164k76ylb.fsf%40ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com In-Reply-To: ``` Linus Torvalds writes: > On Mon, 15 May 2006, Eric W. Biederman wrote: >> >> So that it has a chance of being remembered, and eventually fixed >> the man pages of git-whatchanged and git-log only sort of tell you >> that this is even possible. > > I don't think this is a man-page issue. I think this is a very basic > tutorial issue. > > People still don't seem to realize how flexible (and powerful) the git > revision specifications are. It's not just limiting by path, all of these > work on _all_ of the "history tools" (whether they be gitk, qgit, "git > log", "git whatchanged" or your own home-cooked stuff): > > - "revision based limiting" > > "a..b", but also "a ^b ^c ^d" or "a --not b c d" for the more > complex case where you're interested in one (or more) commit, but > not anything that flows from any of a number of other commits. > > "--all". > > - "commit date based limiting" > > "--since=2.weeks.ago" "--since=aug.5th" > > - "limit by number of hits" > > "-15" > > - "limit by type or state" > > "--no-merges" and "--unpacked" > > And finally > > - "limit by pathname" > > and you can combine all of these. > > So > > gitk --all --since=1.month -15 -- t/ > > will show at most fifteen commits from _any_ branch that changed the > test subdirectory in the last month. > > And yeah, maybe that isn't a very interesting query, but it's easy to > explain and understand, so it's worth explaining early. > > And it should be equally obvious to everybody that if it works for "gitk", > that means that it works for "qgit", "git log" and "git whatchanged" too, > ie this is a very core concept, and not just some tacked-on thing for one > special tool. Sure. If it gets included in a tutorial is great, but existing users aren't likely to read through a tutorial if they think they know what is going on. Having it documented in the man pages (i.e. the reference documentation) which is where people look to check up on the fine points of a command is more likely to matter. Plus it doesn't take any creativity to write a man page you just need to describe what is, which makes man-pages easier to write than documentation where you aren't certain of who your audience is. Since it isn't specific to one command we probably need to document the query limiting in a single file like the diff options are and then just included it in all of the different man pages. But regardless of where we put it, it needs to be documented someplace besides in the email so you don't need to read the code to see that the option is there. Eric ``` ## Linus Torvalds, 2006-05-15 16:45 Subject: Re: how to display file history? Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/Pine.LNX.4.64.0605150944200.3866%40g5.osdl.org In-Reply-To: ``` On Mon, 15 May 2006, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > Having it documented in the man pages (i.e. the reference > documentation) which is where people look to check up on the fine > points of a command is more likely to matter. Somehow I really doubt that. Check out the current man-page for "git log" or "git whatchanged". In particular, check the "examples" section. Yes, it's right there. And no, people apparently don't read the man-pages. Linus ``` ## Marco Costalba, 2006-05-15 17:22 Subject: Re: how to display file history? Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/e5bfff550605151022m7b9ddcd9y53cd745e16ff6b22%40mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: ``` > > So > > gitk --all --since=1.month -15 -- t/ > > will show at most fifteen commits from _any_ branch that changed the > test subdirectory in the last month. > > And yeah, maybe that isn't a very interesting query, but it's easy to > explain and understand, so it's worth explaining early. > > And it should be equally obvious to everybody that if it works for "gitk", > that means that it works for "qgit", "git log" and "git whatchanged" too, For qgit it doesn't work :-) Well, it works but the nice boundary circles are not shown, and qgit always adds --boundary to command line args to feed git-rev-list, but in this case it seems the --boundary option didn't do his job. $git-rev-list --topo-order --boundary --parents --all --since=1.month -15 -- t/ ea892b27b15fbc46a3bb3ad2ddce737dc6590ae5 b0121fb3f279a9cf13aff9da060e742aef3a83fa 8d48ad62a902556b523ee892a3fbe4206d576d3f 8d48ad62a902556b523ee892a3fbe4206d576d3f 2c49009dbe98a26505891d3c680da73baf0b4f81 d14f776402d9f7040cc71ff6e3b992b2e019526a b0121fb3f279a9cf13aff9da060e742aef3a83fa 7f498065e9bf85f6f3e954ec57dedf56fec29e01 6bd20358a9b831b3b545284188871bc844245c25 6bd20358a9b831b3b545284188871bc844245c25 9af0b8dbe2fb252262412a11254e2bcc6ffb87bb 7f498065e9bf85f6f3e954ec57dedf56fec29e01 c2b9e6994d044b218e59abf6d19f7751c4aa13e3 dd05ea1799656024a45017238bbd4857b5256370 c2b9e6994d044b218e59abf6d19f7751c4aa13e3 aadc81c13bbb103e7db759ba9a98a6f9509831f1 bd886fd3ea49b726493255d4adf5d20b31681713 aadc81c13bbb103e7db759ba9a98a6f9509831f1 42d0ee8302c361a0e3bde7bc59858eda94bc13a4 22293b9c41778bb60f3b07355e1b8e421a503702 2c49009dbe98a26505891d3c680da73baf0b4f81 143f4d94c6e2188a6bedfdfa268e66b579e3fbf9 dd05ea1799656024a45017238bbd4857b5256370 dd05ea1799656024a45017238bbd4857b5256370 fd60acaced6de16ebfb66959067e2b29f99a133e 143f4d94c6e2188a6bedfdfa268e66b579e3fbf9 2fc240a7b21c060529c1d2e19d6b483361f81f2a 22293b9c41778bb60f3b07355e1b8e421a503702 22293b9c41778bb60f3b07355e1b8e421a503702 83e77a25dc194933c0fb7908ab6d9fb84a5045e2 83e77a25dc194933c0fb7908ab6d9fb84a5045e2 2fa9a0fb31cbf01e8318a02c3e222d7fd3fd0a83 2fc240a7b21c060529c1d2e19d6b483361f81f2a fd60acaced6de16ebfb66959067e2b29f99a133e 42d0ee8302c361a0e3bde7bc59858eda94bc13a4 42d0ee8302c361a0e3bde7bc59858eda94bc13a4 2fa9a0fb31cbf01e8318a02c3e222d7fd3fd0a83 fd60acaced6de16ebfb66959067e2b29f99a133e bd886fd3ea49b726493255d4adf5d20b31681713 cf9dc65368113caa28f2829e2ada5477fbb031ec Marco ``` ## J. Bruce Fields, 2006-05-15 17:55 Subject: Re: how to display file history? Message-ID: <20060515175549.GD15165@fieldses.org> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20060515175549.GD15165%40fieldses.org In-Reply-To: ``` On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 10:29:20AM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > Sure. If it gets included in a tutorial is great, but existing > users aren't likely to read through a tutorial if they think they > know what is going on. > > Having it documented in the man pages (i.e. the reference > documentation) which is where people look to check up on the fine > points of a command is more likely to matter. Looks like the current git-log man page refers you to the git-rev-list page for that, and the use of path names is documented there. I think that's a pretty reasonable approach for reference documentation, which should be concise. Duplicating the git-rev-list documentation (even some of it) to every man page to which it's relevant would add a lot of text. The current git-log man page is misleading, though--it suggests that git-log accepts (and git-rev-list documents) only options, which might discourage a reader from tracking down information about non-option arguments. I also agree about the tutorial--the "Keeping track of history" section would be a good place to introduce this and git-grep with some fun examples. It's on my todo list, but may take a while, so maybe someone else can beat me to it.... --b. ``` ## Linus Torvalds, 2006-05-15 18:03 Subject: Re: how to display file history? Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/Pine.LNX.4.64.0605151055080.3866%40g5.osdl.org In-Reply-To: ``` On Mon, 15 May 2006, Marco Costalba wrote: > > Well, it works but the nice boundary circles are not shown, and qgit > always adds --boundary to command line args to feed git-rev-list, but > in this case it seems the --boundary option didn't do his job. Well, it did do it's job, but you expected different counting priorities than git-rev-list actually gives you. For the "limit by number" case, the commit counting counts _both_ "primary" commits and "boundary" commits, and will limit the total output to the number specified. qgit would seem to prefer to have the commit counting only affect the "primary" commits, and not the "boundary" ones at all. Which might be sensible, but it's not the semantics it has now. gitk doesn't care, because it uses the boundary commits just as hints. I _think_ gitk is correct here, and qgit is being too strict in its semantic understanding of what the boundary commits mean. But I think so mostly because it would actually be pretty hard to do otherwise (ie the git-rev-list commit counting is largely defined by it's _implementation_, not necessarily by what you want it to do ;) Linus ``` ## Marco Costalba, 2006-05-15 18:32 Subject: Re: how to display file history? Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/e5bfff550605151132s4605a241sd3132aaeb2de6a39%40mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: ``` On 5/15/06, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > qgit would seem to prefer to have the commit counting only affect the > "primary" commits, and not the "boundary" ones at all. Which might be > sensible, but it's not the semantics it has now. > > gitk doesn't care, because it uses the boundary commits just as hints. > $ git-rev-list --topo-order --after="Apr 10" --before="Apr 11" HEAD |wc 14 14 574 $ git-rev-list --topo-order --boundary --after="Apr 10" --before="Apr 11" HEAD |wc 18 18 742 Boundary revisions in this case are _not_ passed through search filtering. Using --boundary option we get revisions ouside given filter range. This does not apply to our previous example. So at least --boundary behaviour it's a little bit inconsistent at the moment. Marco ``` ## Linus Torvalds, 2006-05-15 18:51 Subject: Re: how to display file history? Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/Pine.LNX.4.64.0605151149460.3866%40g5.osdl.org In-Reply-To: ``` On Mon, 15 May 2006, Marco Costalba wrote: > > $ git-rev-list --topo-order --after="Apr 10" --before="Apr 11" HEAD |wc > 14 14 574 > $ git-rev-list --topo-order --boundary --after="Apr 10" --before="Apr > 11" HEAD |wc > 18 18 742 > > Boundary revisions in this case are _not_ passed through search > filtering. Using --boundary option we get revisions ouside given > filter range. Right. And the commit counting is a special filter, and "boundary" is special in that it doesn't normally honor some other filters (it _does_ honor path-based ones, though, I think). So you really should see "--boundary" as a heuristic, and as a hack to help you close the loop on uninteresting commits _faster_. But if something else has closed it for other reasons, you shouldn't depend on it. Linus ``` ## Jonas Fonseca, 2006-05-21 17:35 Subject: Re: how to display file history? Message-ID: <20060521173549.GA23347@diku.dk> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20060521173549.GA23347%40diku.dk In-Reply-To: ``` Eric W. Biederman wrote Mon, May 15, 2006: > Linus Torvalds writes: > > > On Mon, 15 May 2006, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > People still don't seem to realize how flexible (and powerful) the git > > revision specifications are. It's not just limiting by path, all of these > > work on _all_ of the "history tools" (whether they be gitk, qgit, "git > > log", "git whatchanged" or your own home-cooked stuff): > > > > [examples] > > But regardless of where we put it, it needs to be documented someplace > besides in the email so you don't need to read the code to see that > the option is there. I've put some of this on http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/RevisionSpecification that for now may serve as an introduction ... -- Jonas Fonseca ```