# Re: How safe are signed git tags? Only as safe as SHA-1 or somehow safer?

1 messages from 2014-11-24 to 2014-11-24. Participants: bancfc@openmailbox.org.
Thread: https://gitlist.dev/t/38033

## bancfc@openmailbox.org, 2014-11-24 00:52

Subject: Re: How safe are signed git tags? Only as safe as SHA-1 or somehow safer?
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Hi, I wanted to chime in on the topic of SHA1 weaknesses and breaks. The 
problem is idea that SHA1 breaks are theoretical and will only  be 
relevant in a decade or two.

I think its a telling sign when even companies like Google [1] and 
Microsoft [2] who collaborate with spy agencies are moving away from 
SHA1 in verifying browser certs and the estimates by reputable 
cryptographers already put us in the realm of feasible breaks at this 
time, with the bar going lower with every passing year [3]. In three 
years common cyber criminals will be able to crack it using moderate 
sized computer clusters or by renting some AWS cycles.

Please reconsider the urgency of moving away from SHA1 for security 
functions in Git.


References:

[1] 
http://thenextweb.com/google/2014/09/05/google-will-start-sunsetting-sha-1-cryptographic-hash-algorithm-chrome-month-finish-q1-2015/

[2] https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/11/microsoft_retir.html 
(Schneier on Security: Microsoft Retiring SHA-1 in 2016)

[3] https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2012/10/when_will_we_se.html 
(When Will We See Collisions for SHA-1?)

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