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Request: timeout option for remote operations, esp. "git fetch"

Subject: Request: timeout option for remote operations, esp. "git fetch"

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6 messages between Nov 7, 2013 and Nov 14, 2013.

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H. Peter Anvin· Nov 7, 2013, 17:07 UTC · lore

When a remote server is unavailable or very slow, some git commands can stall out indefinitely. It would be a very good thing if remote commands -- but especially git fetch -- could be given a timeout.

	-hpa
Eric Wong· Nov 10, 2013, 20:17 UTC · re: H. Peter Anvin · lore

Re: Request: timeout option for remote operations, esp. "git fetch"

"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
> When a remote server is unavailable or very slow, some git commands can
> stall out indefinitely.  It would be a very good thing if remote
> commands -- but especially git fetch -- could be given a timeout.

We've had SO_KEEPALIVE on git and ssh transports since e47a8583 (2011-12-06) SO_KEEPALIVE for http was added recently (a15d069a) and will be in git 1.8.5

Do you want a shorter timeout for slow (but still alive) servers?
H. Peter Anvin· Nov 12, 2013, 17:00 UTC · re: Eric Wong · lore

Re: Request: timeout option for remote operations, esp. "git fetch"

On 11/10/2013 12:17 PM, Eric Wong wrote:
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> "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
>> When a remote server is unavailable or very slow, some git commands can
>> stall out indefinitely.  It would be a very good thing if remote
>> commands -- but especially git fetch -- could be given a timeout.
> 
> We've had SO_KEEPALIVE on git and ssh transports since e47a8583 (2011-12-06)
> SO_KEEPALIVE for http was added recently (a15d069a) and will be in git 1.8.5
> 
> Do you want a shorter timeout for slow (but still alive) servers?
> 

Yes; note that SO_KEEPALIVE only guarantees that the server is alive at the TCP socket level. If the server is overloaded but technically alive it may still make no meaningful forward progress.

	-hpa
Junio C Hamano· Nov 12, 2013, 17:45 UTC · re: H. Peter Anvin · lore

Re: Request: timeout option for remote operations, esp. "git fetch"

"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> writes:
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> On 11/10/2013 12:17 PM, Eric Wong wrote:
>> "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
>>> When a remote server is unavailable or very slow, some git commands can
>>> stall out indefinitely.  It would be a very good thing if remote
>>> commands -- but especially git fetch -- could be given a timeout.
>> 
>> We've had SO_KEEPALIVE on git and ssh transports since e47a8583 (2011-12-06)
>> SO_KEEPALIVE for http was added recently (a15d069a) and will be in git 1.8.5
>> 
>> Do you want a shorter timeout for slow (but still alive) servers?
>> 
>
> Yes; note that SO_KEEPALIVE only guarantees that the server is alive at
> the TCP socket level.  If the server is overloaded but technically alive
> it may still make no meaningful forward progress.

Which means that your original wish may not be granted with SO_KEEPALIVE at all, no? I was wondering if you wanted a forced timeout based on alarm(2), something similar to what you added to git-daemon in 960deccb (git-daemon: timeout, eliminate double DWIM, 2005-10-19).

H. Peter Anvin· Nov 12, 2013, 18:33 UTC · re: Junio C Hamano · lore

Re: Request: timeout option for remote operations, esp. "git fetch"

On 11/12/2013 09:45 AM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> writes:
> 
>> On 11/10/2013 12:17 PM, Eric Wong wrote:
>>> "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
>>>> When a remote server is unavailable or very slow, some git commands can
>>>> stall out indefinitely.  It would be a very good thing if remote
>>>> commands -- but especially git fetch -- could be given a timeout.
>>>
>>> We've had SO_KEEPALIVE on git and ssh transports since e47a8583 (2011-12-06)
>>> SO_KEEPALIVE for http was added recently (a15d069a) and will be in git 1.8.5
>>>
>>> Do you want a shorter timeout for slow (but still alive) servers?
>>>
>>
>> Yes; note that SO_KEEPALIVE only guarantees that the server is alive at
>> the TCP socket level.  If the server is overloaded but technically alive
>> it may still make no meaningful forward progress.
> 
> Which means that your original wish may not be granted with
> SO_KEEPALIVE at all, no?  I was wondering if you wanted a forced
> timeout based on alarm(2), something similar to what you added to
> git-daemon in 960deccb (git-daemon: timeout, eliminate double DWIM,
> 2005-10-19).
> 

Yes, something more like that on the client end. SO_KEEPALIVE is better than nothing, but not really good enough.

	-hpa
Jeff King· Nov 14, 2013, 08:01 UTC · re: H. Peter Anvin · lore

Re: Request: timeout option for remote operations, esp. "git fetch"

On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:33:49AM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
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> > Which means that your original wish may not be granted with
> > SO_KEEPALIVE at all, no?  I was wondering if you wanted a forced
> > timeout based on alarm(2), something similar to what you added to
> > git-daemon in 960deccb (git-daemon: timeout, eliminate double DWIM,
> > 2005-10-19).
> > 
> 
> Yes, something more like that on the client end.  SO_KEEPALIVE is better
> than nothing, but not really good enough.
Would it be enough to just use timeout(1), like:
  timeout 10m git fetch

That will time the _whole_ fetch operation, which means a legitimately gigantic but fast fetch would still fail. Setting a shorter timeout only for periods of inactivity on the network socket would catch killed or very laggy connections. But it would not catch a server that feeds you data at a constant but ridiculously slow rate.

-Peff

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