# [RFC] "clone --naked"? 7 messages from 2006-01-16 to 2006-01-17. Participants: Junio C Hamano, Arjan van de Ven, Linus Torvalds, Ulrich Windl, Andreas Ericsson. Thread: https://gitlist.dev/t/3082 ## Junio C Hamano, 2006-01-16 07:47 Subject: [RFC] "clone --naked"? Message-ID: <7vfynoy5p5.fsf_-_@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/7vfynoy5p5.fsf_-_%40assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net In-Reply-To: <43CB57A0.29999.F89D30F@Ulrich.Windl.rkdvmks1.ngate.uni-regensburg.de> ``` "Ulrich Windl" writes: > On 14 Jan 2006 at 15:39, Junio C Hamano wrote: > > [...] >> BTW, I have been meaning to make this easier, by introducing a >> new option to "git clone", like this: > ... > You must be over 21 to use --naked, however ;-) > Maybe you find a better word. Linus seems to use word "bare" sometimes. Checking the git-core documentation, repository-layout documentation first used the word naked on Sep 1 2005, while there is no mention of "bare" repository anywhere. Maybe "bare" is preferred? I hope you do not mind my sending this message out to git list to take a quick poll. ``` ## Arjan van de Ven, 2006-01-16 09:06 Subject: Re: [kernel.org users] [RFC] "clone --naked"? Message-ID: <1137402365.3034.5.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/1137402365.3034.5.camel%40laptopd505.fenrus.org In-Reply-To: <7vfynoy5p5.fsf_-_@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> ``` On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 23:47 -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote: > "Ulrich Windl" writes: > > > On 14 Jan 2006 at 15:39, Junio C Hamano wrote: > > > > [...] > >> BTW, I have been meaning to make this easier, by introducing a > >> new option to "git clone", like this: > > ... > > You must be over 21 to use --naked, however ;-) > > Maybe you find a better word. > > Linus seems to use word "bare" sometimes. Checking the git-core > documentation, repository-layout documentation first used the > word naked on Sep 1 2005, while there is no mention of "bare" > repository anywhere. Maybe "bare" is preferred? > > I hope you do not mind my sending this message out to git list > to take a quick poll. While I don't give a rats bottom about the "21"-ness of naked, "naked" is more likely to trigger spam traps than "bare" though... just a side consideration but unfortunately needed nowadays ;( ``` ## Linus Torvalds, 2006-01-16 19:17 Subject: Re: [kernel.org users] [RFC] "clone --naked"? Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/Pine.LNX.4.64.0601161114080.13339%40g5.osdl.org In-Reply-To: <1137402365.3034.5.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> ``` On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > While I don't give a rats bottom about the "21"-ness of naked, "naked" > is more likely to trigger spam traps than "bare" though... just a side > consideration but unfortunately needed nowadays ;( Yeah. I've had spamassassin kill patches to the aic7xxx driver because the subject said "aic7xxx", and the "xxx" triggered as being a bad word. Now, "naked" doesn't seem to trigger anything for spamassassin, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if some web-content blocker were to be over-eager at times. So "bare" might be safer. Linus ``` ## Ulrich Windl, 2006-01-17 07:58 Subject: Re: [kernel.org users] [RFC] "clone --naked"? Message-ID: <43CCB1D3.10309.35645D@Ulrich.Windl.rkdvmks1.ngate.uni-regensburg.de> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/43CCB1D3.10309.35645D%40Ulrich.Windl.rkdvmks1.ngate.uni-regensburg.de In-Reply-To: ``` Hi! Maybe let me clarify: I don't have anything against any of those particular words. My original intention was that I thought them to be little descriptive regarding their function. You seem to have "--bare" and "--naked". Hard to guess what they really do. The suggestion to select better words was not primarily because of underaged using Linux or any SPAM issues. That part was just a joke. Sorry. Regards, Ulrich On 16 Jan 2006 at 11:17, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > > While I don't give a rats bottom about the "21"-ness of naked, "naked" > > is more likely to trigger spam traps than "bare" though... just a side > > consideration but unfortunately needed nowadays ;( > > Yeah. I've had spamassassin kill patches to the aic7xxx driver because the > subject said "aic7xxx", and the "xxx" triggered as being a bad word. > > Now, "naked" doesn't seem to trigger anything for spamassassin, but I > wouldn't be entirely surprised if some web-content blocker were to be > over-eager at times. So "bare" might be safer. > > Linus > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@linux.kernel.org > http://linux.kernel.org/mailman/listinfo/users ``` ## Junio C Hamano, 2006-01-17 08:17 Subject: Re: [kernel.org users] [RFC] "clone --naked"? Message-ID: <7v1wz7clps.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/7v1wz7clps.fsf%40assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net In-Reply-To: <43CCB1D3.10309.35645D@Ulrich.Windl.rkdvmks1.ngate.uni-regensburg.de> ``` "Ulrich Windl" writes: > ... My original intention was that I > thought them to be little descriptive regarding their > function. You seem to have "--bare" and "--naked". Hard to > guess what they really do. True. "A repository without an associated working tree". I do not know a short and sweet phrase to describe that (well, except "bare" and "naked", which I kind of already got used to). Whatever word we choose to describe that, it should go to the glossary document. ``` ## Ulrich Windl, 2006-01-17 13:23 Subject: Re: [kernel.org users] [RFC] "clone --naked"? Message-ID: <43CCFDEA.2997.15EA2FA@Ulrich.Windl.rkdvmks1.ngate.uni-regensburg.de> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/43CCFDEA.2997.15EA2FA%40Ulrich.Windl.rkdvmks1.ngate.uni-regensburg.de In-Reply-To: <7v1wz7clps.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net> ``` On 17 Jan 2006 at 0:17, Junio C Hamano wrote: > "Ulrich Windl" writes: > > > ... My original intention was that I > > thought them to be little descriptive regarding their > > function. You seem to have "--bare" and "--naked". Hard to > > guess what they really do. > > True. "A repository without an associated working tree". I do --rmo --repository-metadata-only? --sdf --sans-data-files? --rwwt (Repository Without Working Tree)? --qdr (Quick-and-Dirty Repository)? ... I think you have your own ideas... Ulrich > not know a short and sweet phrase to describe that (well, except > "bare" and "naked", which I kind of already got used to). > > Whatever word we choose to describe that, it should go to the > glossary document. > ``` ## Andreas Ericsson, 2006-01-17 15:54 Subject: Re: [kernel.org users] [RFC] "clone --naked"? Message-ID: <43CD1351.3040706@op5.se> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/43CD1351.3040706%40op5.se In-Reply-To: <43CCFDEA.2997.15EA2FA@Ulrich.Windl.rkdvmks1.ngate.uni-regensburg.de> ``` Ulrich Windl wrote: > On 17 Jan 2006 at 0:17, Junio C Hamano wrote: > > >>"Ulrich Windl" writes: >> >> >>>... My original intention was that I >>>thought them to be little descriptive regarding their >>>function. You seem to have "--bare" and "--naked". Hard to >>>guess what they really do. >> >>True. "A repository without an associated working tree". I do > > > --rmo --repository-metadata-only? > --sdf --sans-data-files? > --rwwt (Repository Without Working Tree)? > --qdr (Quick-and-Dirty Repository)? > I like --bare (Barely A REpository, BAre REpository). Oh well. -- Andreas Ericsson andreas.ericsson@op5.se OP5 AB www.op5.se Tel: +46 8-230225 Fax: +46 8-230231 ```