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Subject: [PATCH 0/2] Document update for 'git-blame' '-M' and '-C' option

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7 messages between Apr 8, 2010 and Apr 9, 2010. Diffs are folded; open one to read it.

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Bo Yang· Apr 8, 2010, 06:51 UTC · lore

The current 'git-blame' manual state that '-M' detect code move and '-C' detect code copy. After read some code of 'git-blame' and some expriments with it. I found that both '-M' and '-C' detect code move and copy. So, I think the document should be updated. Thanks Thomas Rast a lot for his help on this patch.

Bo Yang (2):
  Add a basic idea section for git-blame.
  Change the description of '-M' and '-C' option.
 Documentation/blame-options.txt |   41 +++++++++++++++++++++++---------------
 Documentation/git-blame.txt     |   32 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 2 files changed, 57 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
Bo Yang· Apr 8, 2010, 06:51 UTC · re: Bo Yang · lore

[PATCH 1/2] Add a basic idea section for git-blame.

Explain the basic idea about blame shifting with '-M' or '-C' given.

Signed-off-by: Thomas Rast <trast@student.ethz.ch>
Signed-off-by: Bo Yang <struggleyb.nku@gmail.com>
---
 Documentation/git-blame.txt |   32 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 files changed, 32 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
Show changes to Documentation/git-blame.txt +32 −0
diff --git a/Documentation/git-blame.txt b/Documentation/git-blame.txt
index a27f439..e31b87f 100644
--- a/Documentation/git-blame.txt
+++ b/Documentation/git-blame.txt
@@ -36,6 +36,38 @@ $ git log --pretty=oneline -S'blame_usage'
 ea4c7f9bf69e781dd0cd88d2bccb2bf5cc15c9a7 git-blame: Make the output
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
+
+BASIC IDEA
+----------
+
+This section briefly explains the basic idea behind 'git-blame'.  You
+do not have to understand it to use git-blame, but it helps in
+understanding the `-M` and `-C` options.  For the sake of simplicity,
+we assume that history is linear.
+
+A call to `git-blame <rev> -- <file>` works as follows:
+
+- Look at `git diff <rev>^ <rev>` to see what the commit did.
+
+- Discard all `-` lines in the diff, since they are no longer part of
+  `<file>`.
+
+- Take blame for all `+` lines; i.e., the newly added lines according
+  to the diff are attributed to `<rev>`.
+
+- Shift blame for all unchanged lines to the parent; i.e., these lines
+  are attributed as in a call to `git blame <rev>^ -- <file>`.
+
+Note that this does not expend any effort to shift blame of `+`
+lines.  This can be changed with the `-M` and `-C` options.
+
+With `-M`, this command detects same lines of the current blaming code
+inside the current file. And it will shift the blame to the author of
+the original lines instead of author of current blaming code. It does
+the same for `-C` except that it will search across file boundary and
+multiple commits.
+
+
 OPTIONS
 -------
 include::blame-options.txt[]

-- 
1.6.0.4
Bo Yang· Apr 8, 2010, 06:51 UTC · re: Bo Yang · lore

[PATCH 2/2] Change the description of '-M' and '-C' option.

Both '-M' and '-C' option detect code moving and copying. The difference between the two options is whether they search across file boundary.

Signed-off-by: Thomas Rast <trast@student.ethz.ch>
Signed-off-by: Bo Yang <struggleyb.nku@gmail.com>
---
 Documentation/blame-options.txt |   41 +++++++++++++++++++++++---------------
 1 files changed, 25 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
Show changes to Documentation/blame-options.txt +25 −16
diff --git a/Documentation/blame-options.txt b/Documentation/blame-options.txt
index 4833cac..aca2a1c 100644
--- a/Documentation/blame-options.txt
+++ b/Documentation/blame-options.txt
@@ -79,14 +79,15 @@ of lines before or after the line given by <start>.
 	of the --date option at linkgit:git-log[1].
 
 -M|<num>|::
-	Detect moving lines in the file as well.  When a commit
-	moves a block of lines in a file (e.g. the original file
-	has A and then B, and the commit changes it to B and
-	then A), the traditional 'blame' algorithm typically blames
-	the lines that were moved up (i.e. B) to the parent and
-	assigns blame to the lines that were moved down (i.e. A)
-	to the child commit.  With this option, both groups of lines
-	are blamed on the parent.
+	Detect moving/copying lines in the file as well.  Instead of
+	taking blame for all added lines, attempt to find the same
+	lines 'in the same file' in the parent commit.  If such a
+	match was found, shift the blame to these lines in the
+	parent. (This expends extra effort on the order of the size
+	of the file for every change.)
++
+The net effect is that if code is moved or copied within the file, the
+lines are attributed to the original instead of the move/copy.
 +
 <num> is optional but it is the lower bound on the number of
 alphanumeric characters that git must detect as moving
@@ -94,14 +95,22 @@ within a file for it to associate those lines with the parent
 commit.
 
 -C|<num>|::
-	In addition to `-M`, detect lines copied from other
-	files that were modified in the same commit.  This is
-	useful when you reorganize your program and move code
-	around across files.  When this option is given twice,
-	the command additionally looks for copies from other
-	files in the commit that creates the file. When this
-	option is given three times, the command additionally
-	looks for copies from other files in any commit.
+	Like `-M`, detect moving/copying lines between files as well.
+	Instead of taking blame for all added lines, attempt to find the same
+	lines across file boundary according to the number of given `-C`.
+	This is useful when you reorganize your program and move/copy
+	code around across files. When this option is given once, detect
+	lines moved/copied from other files that were modified in the
+	same commit. (This expends extra effort on the order of
+	<number of modified files>*<file size> for every change.) When this
+	option is given twice, the command additionally looks for moves/copies
+	from other files in the commit that creates this file. (This expends
+	extra effort on the order of <number of files in the commit>*<file size>
+	for every change.) When this option is given three times, the
+	command additionally looks for moves/copies from other files
+	in any commit. (This expends extra effort on the order of
+	<commit number>*<number of files in one commit>*<file size>
+	for every change.)
 +
 <num> is optional but it is the lower bound on the number of
 alphanumeric characters that git must detect as moving

-- 
1.6.0.4
Junio C Hamano· Apr 8, 2010, 08:00 UTC · re: Bo Yang · lore

Re: [PATCH 1/2] Add a basic idea section for git-blame.

Bo Yang <struggleyb.nku@gmail.com> writes:
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> +A call to `git-blame <rev> -- <file>` works as follows:
> +
> +- Look at `git diff <rev>^ <rev>` to see what the commit did.
> +
> +- Discard all `-` lines in the diff, since they are no longer part of
> +  `<file>`.
> +
> +- Take blame for all `+` lines; i.e., the newly added lines according
> +  to the diff are attributed to `<rev>`.

I hate to say it, but this is horrifying; it works quite the other way around.

The name of the game is not "take blame by looking at the diff to see what we introduced"; it is "avoid taking blame at all cost, by looking at the diff to see what we might have inherited from our parents".

A description closer to the truth would be:
 - Look at output of "git diff <rev>^$n <rev>" for each parent ($n runs
   from 1 to number of parents);
 - Ignore all +/- lines.  The context ' ' lines and lines outside of diff
   hunks are known to have been inherited from $n-th parent and they are
   not our fault.  We can happily pass blame for these lines to our
   parent.
 - Do the above for all the parents.  We (grudgingly) take blame for lines
   that we failed to find corresponding lines in our parents.

The -M option affects what happens between the second and the third step. We try to see if the lines that we did not pass blame to <rev>^$n might have come from <rev>^$n by running diff between the remainder and the blob in <rev>^$n *again*. This lets us catch code movement within the blob, hence the name of the option -M.

The -C option affects the choice of the blob in <rev>^$n. Usually, we internally run an equivalent of "git diff -M <rev>^$n <rev>" to notice that the file F that we are analyzing used to be called F' in $n-th parent, and run the diff against it, but -C allows us to check with paths other than that, and additional -C enlarges the search space. This is to notice code movement (with a single -C) or copies (with more -Cs) across paths.

For illustrated description, read the classic:
 
    http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/28826
Almost all the hits in the first page from this query would help, too:
http://search.gmane.org/?query=On+blame%2Fpickaxe&author=Junio+C+Hamano&group=gmane.comp.version-control.git&sort=revdate&DEFAULTOP=and&[=2&xP=blame%09pickaxe&xFILTERS=Gcomp.version-control.git-Ac-Ahamano-Ajunio---A
Thomas Rast· Apr 8, 2010, 16:27 UTC · re: Junio C Hamano · lore

Re: [PATCH 1/2] Add a basic idea section for git-blame.

Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> Bo Yang <struggleyb.nku@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > +A call to `git-blame <rev> -- <file>` works as follows:
> > +
> > +- Look at `git diff <rev>^ <rev>` to see what the commit did.
> > +
> > +- Discard all `-` lines in the diff, since they are no longer part of
> > +  `<file>`.
> > +
> > +- Take blame for all `+` lines; i.e., the newly added lines according
> > +  to the diff are attributed to `<rev>`.
> 
> I hate to say it, but this is horrifying; it works quite the other way
> around.
> 
> The name of the game is not "take blame by looking at the diff to see what
> we introduced"; it is "avoid taking blame at all cost, by looking at the
> diff to see what we might have inherited from our parents".

"Horrifying" seems a fairly harsh word for another way to describe the process *in linear history* and with default settings, doesn't it?

I now see that "assume linear history" is oversimplifying the process, but I have to take blame^W^W^W^Wwill fail to shift blame for it since I suggested that.

Show 7 quoted lines
> For illustrated description, read the classic:
>  
>     http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/28826
> 
> Almost all the hits in the first page from this query would help, too:
> 
> http://search.gmane.org/?query=On+blame%2Fpickaxe&author=Junio+C+Hamano&group=gmane.comp.version-control.git&sort=revdate&DEFAULTOP=and&[=2&xP=blame%09pickaxe&xFILTERS=Gcomp.version-control.git-Ac-Ahamano-Ajunio---A

Thanks. I trust this will help Bo make a revised description for the manpage.

[PS for the list record: while part of the patches is indeed mine, I never signed off on them.]

-- 
Thomas Rast
trast@{inf,student}.ethz.ch
Junio C Hamano· Apr 8, 2010, 16:51 UTC · re: Thomas Rast · lore

Re: [PATCH 1/2] Add a basic idea section for git-blame.

Thomas Rast <trast@student.ethz.ch> writes:
> "Horrifying" seems a fairly harsh word for another way to describe the
> process *in linear history* and with default settings, doesn't it?

No, even in a linear setting, if you start from "We discard "-" and take blame for +", you can never get to -M/-C.

Suppose you had "a/b/c/" in the parent and "1/b/c/2/a/3/4/a/5/" in the child ("/" stands for LF). Your "b/c/" would match and you say "I added 1/, 2/a/3/4/a/5/". How would you fix that so that you can say that "a/" after "2/" was actually moved from the first line, and possibly the second "a/" was also copied from the same line, if you discard all "-"?

You can say "in linear history and no -M nor -C, you could annotate things this way", but then you are not describing "blame" anymore; you are describing something else that may work very well in much simpler setting and it might even be how some other SCMs would do it.

But it _is_ horrifying to see that in a section that begins with "blame works as follows".

Bo Yang· Apr 9, 2010, 05:11 UTC · re: Junio C Hamano · lore

Re: [PATCH 1/2] Add a basic idea section for git-blame.

Hi Junio, On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:

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> The name of the game is not "take blame by looking at the diff to see what
> we introduced"; it is "avoid taking blame at all cost, by looking at the
> diff to see what we might have inherited from our parents".
>
> A description closer to the truth would be:
>
>  - Look at output of "git diff <rev>^$n <rev>" for each parent ($n runs
>   from 1 to number of parents);
>
>  - Ignore all +/- lines.  The context ' ' lines and lines outside of diff
>   hunks are known to have been inherited from $n-th parent and they are
>   not our fault.  We can happily pass blame for these lines to our
>   parent.
>
>  - Do the above for all the parents.  We (grudgingly) take blame for lines
>   that we failed to find corresponding lines in our parents.
>
> The -M option affects what happens between the second and the third step.
> We try to see if the lines that we did not pass blame to <rev>^$n might
> have come from <rev>^$n by running diff between the remainder and the blob
> in <rev>^$n *again*.  This lets us catch code movement within the blob,
> hence the name of the option -M.

I think here, not only the code movement, but also the copies will be found too. Please correct me if I am wrong here. :-)

Show 11 quoted lines
> The -C option affects the choice of the blob in <rev>^$n.  Usually, we
> internally run an equivalent of "git diff -M <rev>^$n <rev>" to notice
> that the file F that we are analyzing used to be called F' in $n-th
> parent, and run the diff against it, but -C allows us to check with paths
> other than that, and additional -C enlarges the search space.  This is to
> notice code movement (with a single -C) or copies (with more -Cs) across
> paths.
>
> For illustrated description, read the classic:
>
>    http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/28826

Thanks a lot for providing this reference. It really helps me too much to understand how blame works. I will try to re-read the whole code according the description here. ;-)

Regards! Bo

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