# Distribution size 9 messages from 2009-09-26 to 2009-09-29. Participants: Marc Weber, Johannes Schindelin, Jakub Narebski, Tay Ray Chuan, Thomas Singer, Marius Storm-Olsen. Thread: https://gitlist.dev/t/21064 ## Marc Weber, 2009-09-26 11:11 Subject: Distribution size Message-ID: <1253962653-sup-1882@nixos> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/1253962653-sup-1882%40nixos ``` Hi, Has anyone thought about reducing distribution size ? comparison: git-1.6.4.4 i%du -hs . 115M . mercurial-1.0.2 i%du -hs . 5.4M . bazaar-1.10rc1 i%du -hs 21M . darcs-2.2.1 i%du -hs /nix/store/8xwfavyv22pvm3s60wvzcbq561fjk5di-darcs-2.2.1 nixos 32M . There was an attempt to reduce size by using a shared library in 2007: http://markmail.org/message/vzukaie4qvbghkq5 So is there a reason why git takes up so much more disk space other than that its using many small executables? Marc Weber ``` ## Johannes Schindelin, 2009-09-26 11:22 Subject: Re: Distribution size Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.DEB.1.00.0909261320370.4985%40pacific.mpi-cbg.de In-Reply-To: <1253962653-sup-1882@nixos> ``` Hi, On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Marc Weber wrote: > Has anyone thought about reducing distribution size ? > > comparison: > > git-1.6.4.4 i%du -hs . > 115M . Funny. Git for Windows is less than 12MB [*1*]. And it includes a bash and Perl. (Did you count Python on Windows?) So maybe your analysis is severely borked. Ciao, Dscho [*1*]: See http://msysgit.googlecode.com/ ``` ## Jakub Narebski, 2009-09-26 11:27 Subject: Re: Distribution size Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/m37hvmaqud.fsf%40localhost.localdomain In-Reply-To: <1253962653-sup-1882@nixos> ``` Marc Weber writes: > Has anyone thought about reducing distribution size ? > > comparison: > > git-1.6.4.4 i%du -hs . > 115M . Errr... what? $ du -hs /usr/libexec/git-core/ 8.0M $ du -shc `rpm -ql git` ... 27M But $ du -sh git/.git 49M (there is some of my commits there, some old branches pinned, and some commits with other git(web) forks). And $ git archive HEAD --output=tmp.tar $ du -sh tmp.tar 11M tmp.tar > mercurial-1.0.2 i%du -hs . > 5.4M . > > bazaar-1.10rc1 i%du -hs > 21M . > > darcs-2.2.1 i%du -hs /nix/store/8xwfavyv22pvm3s60wvzcbq561fjk5di-darcs-2.2.1 nixos > 32M . > > There was an attempt to reduce size by using a shared library in 2007: > http://markmail.org/message/vzukaie4qvbghkq5 > > So is there a reason why git takes up so much more disk space other than > that its using many small executables? Are you sure you are comparing the same thing in all cases? And not in some cases after "make", with all object files? -- Jakub Narebski Poland ShadeHawk on #git ``` ## Tay Ray Chuan, 2009-09-26 11:53 Subject: Re: Distribution size Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/be6fef0d0909260453x374b5ed4h21ff79a107fde28a%40mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: <1253962653-sup-1882@nixos> ``` Hi, On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Marc Weber wrote: > git-1.6.4.4 i%du -hs . > 115M    . perhaps it's due to usage of hard links? -- Cheers, Ray Chuan ``` ## Thomas Singer, 2009-09-26 15:17 Subject: Re: Distribution size Message-ID: <4ABE3091.5040600@syntevo.com> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/4ABE3091.5040600%40syntevo.com In-Reply-To: ``` > Funny. Git for Windows is less than 12MB [*1*]. Well, the portable Git bundle compressed with 7zip is approx. 11MB, the Git installer (maybe also using 7zip internally) is at approx. the same size. Unpacked/installed on disk they are at 138MB/131MB. If you try to compress it with zip, it will reduce to approx. 70MB which still is quite large. We are interested, too, in having a small(er) bundle, because we want to distribute Git binaries with our Git GUI front-end, SmartGit, so the user will (have the option to) get an all-inclusive-bundle. -- Best regards, Thomas Singer ============= syntevo GmbH http://www.syntevo.com http://blog.syntevo.com Johannes Schindelin wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Marc Weber wrote: > >> Has anyone thought about reducing distribution size ? >> >> comparison: >> >> git-1.6.4.4 i%du -hs . >> 115M . > > Funny. Git for Windows is less than 12MB [*1*]. And it includes a bash > and Perl. (Did you count Python on Windows?) > > So maybe your analysis is severely borked. > > Ciao, > Dscho > > [*1*]: See http://msysgit.googlecode.com/ > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > > ``` ## Johannes Schindelin, 2009-09-26 16:00 Subject: Re: Distribution size Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.DEB.1.00.0909261759410.4985%40pacific.mpi-cbg.de In-Reply-To: <4ABE3091.5040600@syntevo.com> ``` Hi, On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Thomas Singer wrote: > > Funny. Git for Windows is less than 12MB [*1*]. > > Well, the portable Git bundle compressed with 7zip is approx. 11MB, the > Git installer (maybe also using 7zip internally) is at approx. the same > size. Unpacked/installed on disk they are at 138MB/131MB. If you try to > compress it with zip, it will reduce to approx. 70MB which still is > quite large. Of course, the Git installer does nothing like you claim. > We are interested, too, in having a small(er) bundle, because we want to > distribute Git binaries with our Git GUI front-end, SmartGit, so the > user will (have the option to) get an all-inclusive-bundle. If I see something in it for myself, I might want to help. Ciao, Dscho ``` ## Marius Storm-Olsen, 2009-09-28 12:48 Subject: Re: Distribution size Message-ID: <4AC0B088.9090101@gmail.com> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/4AC0B088.9090101%40gmail.com In-Reply-To: <4ABE3091.5040600@syntevo.com> ``` Thomas Singer said the following on 26.09.2009 17:17: >> Funny. Git for Windows is less than 12MB [*1*]. > > Well, the portable Git bundle compressed with 7zip is approx. 11MB, > the Git installer (maybe also using 7zip internally) is at approx. > the same size. Unpacked/installed on disk they are at 138MB/131MB. > If you try to compress it with zip, it will reduce to approx. 70MB > which still is quite large. > > We are interested, too, in having a small(er) bundle, because we > want to distribute Git binaries with our Git GUI front-end, > SmartGit, so the user will (have the option to) get an > all-inclusive-bundle. [Please, never ever top-post on the Git mailing list, thanks] Most of the git-*.exe are identical duplicates, so most of that can be nuked. Also, you don't need everything in msysgit to distribute, only for development. You should be able to make a fairly small distribution for usage only. -- .marius ``` ## Thomas Singer, 2009-09-29 09:06 Subject: Re: Distribution size Message-ID: <4AC1CE12.8040406@syntevo.com> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/4AC1CE12.8040406%40syntevo.com In-Reply-To: <4AC0B088.9090101@gmail.com> ``` Hi Marius, > Also, you don't need everything in msysgit to distribute, only for development. How should I find out what is required to *run* all git commands, except of trying it myself? Is there a document available somewhere? -- Best regards, Thomas Singer ============= syntevo GmbH http://www.syntevo.com http://blog.syntevo.com Marius Storm-Olsen wrote: > Thomas Singer said the following on 26.09.2009 17:17: >>> Funny. Git for Windows is less than 12MB [*1*]. >> >> Well, the portable Git bundle compressed with 7zip is approx. 11MB, >> the Git installer (maybe also using 7zip internally) is at approx. >> the same size. Unpacked/installed on disk they are at 138MB/131MB. >> If you try to compress it with zip, it will reduce to approx. 70MB >> which still is quite large. >> >> We are interested, too, in having a small(er) bundle, because we >> want to distribute Git binaries with our Git GUI front-end, >> SmartGit, so the user will (have the option to) get an >> all-inclusive-bundle. > > [Please, never ever top-post on the Git mailing list, thanks] > > Most of the git-*.exe are identical duplicates, so most of that can be > nuked. Also, you don't need everything in msysgit to distribute, only > for development. You should be able to make a fairly small distribution > for usage only. > > -- > .marius > > ``` ## Johannes Schindelin, 2009-09-29 10:47 Subject: Re: Distribution size Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.DEB.1.00.0909291247160.29499%40intel-tinevez-2-302 In-Reply-To: <4AC1CE12.8040406@syntevo.com> ``` Hi, On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Thomas Singer wrote: > > Also, you don't need everything in msysgit to distribute, only for > > development. > > How should I find out what is required to *run* all git commands, except > of trying it myself? Is there a document available somewhere? Thomas, are you seriously asking to work for you for free? What's in it for us? Ciao, Dscho ```