# Linus' sha1 is much faster!

21 messages from 2009-08-14 to 2017-04-20. Participants: Pádraig Brady, Bryan Donlan, John Tapsell, Linus Torvalds, Theodore Tso, Giuseppe Scrivano, Nicolas Pitre, Andreas Ericsson, Steven Noonan, galt.
Thread: https://gitlist.dev/t/20601

## Pádraig Brady, 2009-08-14 23:25

Subject: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
Message-ID: <4A85F270.20703@draigBrady.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/4A85F270.20703%40draigBrady.com

```
I've noticed before that coreutils hashing utils
were a little behind in performance, but was prompted
to look at it again when I noticed the recently
updated sha1 implementation in git:
http://git.kernel.org/?p=git/git.git;a=history;f=block-sha1;h=d3121f7;hb=pu

Testing that with the attached program which I wrote
in a couple of mins to try and match sha1sum's system calls
shows that it's around 33% faster, as shown below:

$ gcc $(rpm -q --qf="%{OPTFLAGS}\n" coreutils) linus-sha1.c sha1.c -o linus-sha1

$ time ./linus-sha1 300MB_file
df1e19e245fee4f53087b50ef953ca2c8d1644d7  300MB_file
real    0m2.742s
user    0m2.516s
sys     0m0.206s

$ time ~/git/coreutils/src/sha1sum 300MB_file
df1e19e245fee4f53087b50ef953ca2c8d1644d7  300MB_file

real    0m4.166s
user    0m3.846s
sys     0m0.298s

So, could we use that code in coreutils?
Think of all the dead fish it would save.

I've also attached a trivial block-sha1 patch which doesn't
affect performance, but does suppress a signed unsigned
comparison warning which occurs with -Wextra for example.

cheers,
Pádraig.


/* gcc -O2 -Wall linus-sha1.c sha1.c -o linus-sha1 */
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include "sha1.h"

int main(int argc, char** argv)
{
    if (argc != 2) return 1;
    const char* filename = argv[1];
    FILE *fp = fopen (filename, "r");
    if (!fp) return 1;

    #define BS 4096 /* match coreutils */

    blk_SHA_CTX ctx;
    blk_SHA1_Init(&ctx);
    size_t nr;
    char buf[BS];
    while ((nr=fread_unlocked(buf, 1, sizeof(buf), fp)))
        blk_SHA1_Update(&ctx, buf, nr);
    unsigned char hash[20];
    blk_SHA1_Final(hash, &ctx);
    int i;
    for (i=0; i<sizeof(hash); i++)
        printf("%02x",*(hash+i));
    printf("  %s\n", filename);

    return 0;
}


>From fa75e818836f763357ff9b7bbde3327e1aabbe47 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: =?utf-8?q?P=C3=A1draig=20Brady?= <P@draigBrady.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:17:30 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] block-sha1: suppress signed unsigned comparison warning

* block-sha1/sha1.c: Use unsigned ints as the values
will never go negative.
---
 block-sha1/sha1.c |    4 ++--
 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/block-sha1/sha1.c b/block-sha1/sha1.c
index d3121f7..be763d8 100644
--- a/block-sha1/sha1.c
+++ b/block-sha1/sha1.c
@@ -231,13 +231,13 @@ void blk_SHA1_Init(blk_SHA_CTX *ctx)
 
 void blk_SHA1_Update(blk_SHA_CTX *ctx, const void *data, unsigned long len)
 {
-	int lenW = ctx->size & 63;
+	unsigned int lenW = ctx->size & 63;
 
 	ctx->size += len;
 
 	/* Read the data into W and process blocks as they get full */
 	if (lenW) {
-		int left = 64 - lenW;
+		unsigned int left = 64 - lenW;
 		if (len < left)
 			left = len;
 		memcpy(lenW + (char *)ctx->W, data, left);
-- 
1.6.2.5


```

## Bryan Donlan, 2009-08-15 20:02

Subject: Re: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
Message-ID: <3e8340490908151302y33a97d50t38ad0a8a788f1cee@mail.gmail.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/3e8340490908151302y33a97d50t38ad0a8a788f1cee%40mail.gmail.com
In-Reply-To: <4A85F270.20703@draigBrady.com>

```
2009/8/14 Pádraig Brady <P@draigbrady.com>:
> I've noticed before that coreutils hashing utils
> were a little behind in performance, but was prompted
> to look at it again when I noticed the recently
> updated sha1 implementation in git:
> http://git.kernel.org/?p=git/git.git;a=history;f=block-sha1;h=d3121f7;hb=pu
>
> Testing that with the attached program which I wrote
> in a couple of mins to try and match sha1sum's system calls
> shows that it's around 33% faster, as shown below:
>
> $ gcc $(rpm -q --qf="%{OPTFLAGS}\n" coreutils) linus-sha1.c sha1.c -o linus-sha1
>
> $ time ./linus-sha1 300MB_file
> df1e19e245fee4f53087b50ef953ca2c8d1644d7  300MB_file
> real    0m2.742s
> user    0m2.516s
> sys     0m0.206s
>
> $ time ~/git/coreutils/src/sha1sum 300MB_file
> df1e19e245fee4f53087b50ef953ca2c8d1644d7  300MB_file
>
> real    0m4.166s
> user    0m3.846s
> sys     0m0.298s
>
> So, could we use that code in coreutils?
> Think of all the dead fish it would save.

coreutils is licensed under GPLv3, and git under GPLv2 (only), so
you'd need permission from all contributors to the implementation in
order to relicense under GPLv3. A quick grep of the history suggests
these contributors to be:

Brandon Casey <drafnel@gmail.com>
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>
(adding these people to the CC list)

Additionally, it was originally based on the code in
mozilla-sha1/sha1.c, but that contains a license grant allowing it to
be used under GPLv2 /or later/, so if GPLv3 relicensing is enough it
shouldn't be necessary to get in contact with the original author.
However if the FSF requires copyright assignment to accept the new
implementation, it will be necessary to track down contributors to the
original mozilla-sha1/sha1.c as well.

Note that I'm not a lawyer, so there might be other roadblocks etc to
this as well, etc :)

```

## John Tapsell, 2009-08-15 20:12

Subject: Re: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
Message-ID: <43d8ce650908151312o6a43416el27965c4b0ab8d83d@mail.gmail.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/43d8ce650908151312o6a43416el27965c4b0ab8d83d%40mail.gmail.com
In-Reply-To: <3e8340490908151302y33a97d50t38ad0a8a788f1cee@mail.gmail.com>

```
2009/8/15 Bryan Donlan <bdonlan@gmail.com>:
> coreutils is licensed under GPLv3, and git under GPLv2 (only), so
> you'd need permission from all contributors to the implementation in
> order to relicense under GPLv3. A quick grep of the history suggests
> these contributors to be:


X11 also requires a fast SHA1 implementation.  It uses this to check
if two pixmaps are the same.  So it would be really nice to relicense
under a liberal enough license that xorg can use it.

John

```

## Linus Torvalds, 2009-08-15 20:23

Subject: Re: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0908151315400.3162@localhost.localdomain>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.LFD.2.01.0908151315400.3162%40localhost.localdomain
In-Reply-To: <43d8ce650908151312o6a43416el27965c4b0ab8d83d@mail.gmail.com>

```


On Sat, 15 Aug 2009, John Tapsell wrote:

> 2009/8/15 Bryan Donlan <bdonlan@gmail.com>:
> > coreutils is licensed under GPLv3, and git under GPLv2 (only), so
> > you'd need permission from all contributors to the implementation in
> > order to relicense under GPLv3. A quick grep of the history suggests
> > these contributors to be:
> 
> X11 also requires a fast SHA1 implementation.  It uses this to check
> if two pixmaps are the same.  So it would be really nice to relicense
> under a liberal enough license that xorg can use it.

I'm personally ok with retaining the mozilla-sha1 license.

There's not really anything _remaining_ of the mozilla code, but hey, I 
started from it. In retrospect I probably should have started from the PPC 
asm code that already did the blocking sanely - but that's a "20/20 
hindsight" kind of thing.

Plus hey, the mozilla code being a horrid pile of crud was why I was so 
convinced that I could improve on things. So that's a kind of source for 
it, even if it's more about the motivational side than any actual 
remaining code ;)

That said, I don't know if the MPL is ok for X11. I've not looked at 
compatibility issues with MPL. For git, we could just ignore the MPL, 
since the GPLv2 was acceptable regardless of it.

			Linus

```

## Linus Torvalds, 2009-08-15 20:54

Subject: Re: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0908151336530.3162@localhost.localdomain>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.LFD.2.01.0908151336530.3162%40localhost.localdomain
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0908151315400.3162@localhost.localdomain>

```


On Sat, 15 Aug 2009, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> That said, I don't know if the MPL is ok for X11. I've not looked at 
> compatibility issues with MPL. For git, we could just ignore the MPL, 
> since the GPLv2 was acceptable regardless of it.

If MPL isn't ok for X11, then we'd need to make sure that even the 
silliest Mozilla crud has been rewritten. There really isn't much, but 
hey, the _history_ is based on the mozilla code, and who knows - the 
'blk_SHA_CTX' struct has things like the fields in the same order as the 
Mozilla equivalent, for all those historical reasons.

(Heh. Looking at that, I probably should move the 'size' field first, 
since that would have different alignment rules, and the struct would be 
more tightly packed that way, and initialize better).

Afaik, none of the actual code remains (the mozilla SHA1 thing did the 
wrong thing for performance even for just the final bytes, and did those a 
byte at a time etc, so I rewrote even the trivial SHA1_Final parts).

Of course, maybe the Mozilla people would be interested in taking my 
faster version, and say that the new-BSD license is ok, and make everybody 
happy. The only listed author for the Mozilla SHA1 is Paul Kocher. I added 
him to the Cc.

Paul, for your information, we're talking about a faster rewritten "mostly 
portable" SHA1 routines that you can find at

	http://git.kernel.org/?p=git/git.git;a=tree;f=block-sha1;hb=pu

(follow the "blob" pointers to see sha1.c and sha1.h). I don't know if 
you're active with Mozilla/Firefox or whether you even care, but you seem 
to be the logical choice of person to ask.

			Linus

```

## Theodore Tso, 2009-08-16 00:06

Subject: Re: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
Message-ID: <20090816000640.GA7554@mit.edu>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20090816000640.GA7554%40mit.edu
In-Reply-To: <43d8ce650908151312o6a43416el27965c4b0ab8d83d@mail.gmail.com>

```
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 09:12:58PM +0100, John Tapsell wrote:
> 2009/8/15 Bryan Donlan <bdonlan@gmail.com>:
> > coreutils is licensed under GPLv3, and git under GPLv2 (only), so
> > you'd need permission from all contributors to the implementation in
> > order to relicense under GPLv3. A quick grep of the history suggests
> > these contributors to be:
> 
> X11 also requires a fast SHA1 implementation.  It uses this to check
> if two pixmaps are the same.  So it would be really nice to relicense
> under a liberal enough license that xorg can use it.

If the checksum isn't being exposed in the protocol (i.e., it's just
internal to the X server), one possibility for X11 is to consider to
use the SHA-3 candidate Skein instead.  After receiving a large amount
of evaluation by cryptographic experts, it was one of the 18
algorithms (our of an original 64 entries) that have made it the 2nd
round of the NIST competition.  It's also *substantially* faster than
SHA:

    One exception to this is Skein, created by several well-known
    cryptographers and noted pundit Bruce Schneier. It was designed
    specifically to exploit all three of the Core 2 execution units
    and to run at a full 64-bits. This gives it roughly four to 10
    times the logic density of competing submissions.

    This is what I meant by the Matrix quote above. They didn't bend
    the spoon; they bent the crypto algorithm. They moved the logic
    operations around in a way that wouldn't weaken the crypto, but
    would strengthen its speed on the Intel Core 2.

    In their paper (PDF), the authors of Skein express surprise that a
    custom silicon ASIC implementation is not any faster than the
    software implementation. They shouldn't be surprised. Every time
    you can redefine a problem to run optimally in software, you will
    reach the same speeds you get with optimized ASIC hardware. The
    reason software has a reputation of being slow is because people
    don't redefine the original problem.

    http://www.darkreading.com/blog/archives/2008/11/bending_skein_c.html

For more information and some optimized implementation, see:

	http://www.skein-hash.info/

							- Ted

```

## Giuseppe Scrivano, 2009-08-16 19:25

Subject: Re: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
Message-ID: <87eirbef3c.fsf@master.homenet>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/87eirbef3c.fsf%40master.homenet
In-Reply-To: <4A85F270.20703@draigBrady.com>

```
Hi Pádraig,

I tried to reproduce your results but I wasn't able to do it.  The
biggest difference on a 300MB file I noticed was approximately 15% using
on both implementations -O2, and 5% using -O3.
My GCC version is "gcc (Debian 4.3.3-14) 4.3.3" and the CPU is: Intel(R)
Pentium(R) D CPU 3.20GHz.

I also spent some time trying to improve the gnulib SHA1 implementation
and it seems a lookup table can improve things a bit.

Can you please try the patch that I have attached and tell me which
performance difference (if any) you get?

Thanks,
Giuseppe




>From b975a5e0849eaa46e5cf410c5bf6e2308f044d61 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Giuseppe Scrivano <gscrivano@gnu.org>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:53:54 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] SHA1: use a lookup table for faster hashing

* lib/sha1.c (struct sha1_pre): New member.
* lib/sha1.c (sha1_process_block): Use the lookup table to quickly find
indices to use in the current round.
---
 lib/sha1.c |  160 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------------------
 1 files changed, 92 insertions(+), 68 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lib/sha1.c b/lib/sha1.c
index 9c6c7ae..ec18ba7 100644
--- a/lib/sha1.c
+++ b/lib/sha1.c
@@ -283,6 +283,32 @@ sha1_process_bytes (const void *buffer, size_t len, struct sha1_ctx *ctx)
 #define F3(B,C,D) ( ( B & C ) | ( D & ( B | C ) ) )
 #define F4(B,C,D) (B ^ C ^ D)
 
+struct lookup_t
+{
+  unsigned char l1 : 4;
+  unsigned char l2 : 4;
+  unsigned char l3 : 4;
+  unsigned char l4 : 4;
+};
+
+const static struct lookup_t
+sha1_pre[16] = {{(0 - 3) & 0x0f, (0 - 8) & 0x0f, (0 - 14) & 0x0f},
+                {(1 - 3) & 0x0f, (1 - 8) & 0x0f, (1 - 14) & 0x0f},
+                {(2 - 3) & 0x0f, (2 - 8) & 0x0f, (2 - 14) & 0x0f},
+                {(3 - 3) & 0x0f, (3 - 8) & 0x0f, (3 - 14) & 0x0f},
+                {(4 - 3) & 0x0f, (4 - 8) & 0x0f, (4 - 14) & 0x0f},
+                {(5 - 3) & 0x0f, (5 - 8) & 0x0f, (5 - 14) & 0x0f},
+                {(6 - 3) & 0x0f, (6 - 8) & 0x0f, (6 - 14) & 0x0f},
+                {(7 - 3) & 0x0f, (7 - 8) & 0x0f, (7 - 14) & 0x0f},
+                {(8 - 3) & 0x0f, (8 - 8) & 0x0f, (8 - 14) & 0x0f},
+                {(9 - 3) & 0x0f, (9 - 8) & 0x0f, (9 - 14) & 0x0f},
+                {(10 - 3) & 0x0f, (10 - 8) & 0x0f, (10 - 14) & 0x0f},
+                {(11 - 3) & 0x0f, (11 - 8) & 0x0f, (11 - 14) & 0x0f},
+                {(12 - 3) & 0x0f, (12 - 8) & 0x0f, (12 - 14) & 0x0f},
+                {(13 - 3) & 0x0f, (13 - 8) & 0x0f, (13 - 14) & 0x0f},
+                {(14 - 3) & 0x0f, (14 - 8) & 0x0f, (14 - 14) & 0x0f},
+                {(15 - 3) & 0x0f, (15 - 8) & 0x0f, (15 - 14) & 0x0f}};
+
 /* Process LEN bytes of BUFFER, accumulating context into CTX.
    It is assumed that LEN % 64 == 0.
    Most of this code comes from GnuPG's cipher/sha1.c.  */
@@ -309,9 +335,8 @@ sha1_process_block (const void *buffer, size_t len, struct sha1_ctx *ctx)
 
 #define rol(x, n) (((x) << (n)) | ((uint32_t) (x) >> (32 - (n))))
 
-#define M(I) ( tm =   x[I&0x0f] ^ x[(I-14)&0x0f] \
-		    ^ x[(I-8)&0x0f] ^ x[(I-3)&0x0f] \
-	       , (x[I&0x0f] = rol(tm, 1)) )
+#define M(I) (x[I] = rol (x[sha1_pre[I].l1] ^ x[sha1_pre[I].l2] \
+                          ^ x[sha1_pre[I].l3] ^ x[I], 1))
 
 #define R(A,B,C,D,E,F,K,M)  do { E += rol( A, 5 )     \
 				      + F( B, C, D )  \
@@ -322,7 +347,6 @@ sha1_process_block (const void *buffer, size_t len, struct sha1_ctx *ctx)
 
   while (words < endp)
     {
-      uint32_t tm;
       int t;
       for (t = 0; t < 16; t++)
 	{
@@ -346,70 +370,70 @@ sha1_process_block (const void *buffer, size_t len, struct sha1_ctx *ctx)
       R( c, d, e, a, b, F1, K1, x[13] );
       R( b, c, d, e, a, F1, K1, x[14] );
       R( a, b, c, d, e, F1, K1, x[15] );
-      R( e, a, b, c, d, F1, K1, M(16) );
-      R( d, e, a, b, c, F1, K1, M(17) );
-      R( c, d, e, a, b, F1, K1, M(18) );
-      R( b, c, d, e, a, F1, K1, M(19) );
-      R( a, b, c, d, e, F2, K2, M(20) );
-      R( e, a, b, c, d, F2, K2, M(21) );
-      R( d, e, a, b, c, F2, K2, M(22) );
-      R( c, d, e, a, b, F2, K2, M(23) );
-      R( b, c, d, e, a, F2, K2, M(24) );
-      R( a, b, c, d, e, F2, K2, M(25) );
-      R( e, a, b, c, d, F2, K2, M(26) );
-      R( d, e, a, b, c, F2, K2, M(27) );
-      R( c, d, e, a, b, F2, K2, M(28) );
-      R( b, c, d, e, a, F2, K2, M(29) );
-      R( a, b, c, d, e, F2, K2, M(30) );
-      R( e, a, b, c, d, F2, K2, M(31) );
-      R( d, e, a, b, c, F2, K2, M(32) );
-      R( c, d, e, a, b, F2, K2, M(33) );
-      R( b, c, d, e, a, F2, K2, M(34) );
-      R( a, b, c, d, e, F2, K2, M(35) );
-      R( e, a, b, c, d, F2, K2, M(36) );
-      R( d, e, a, b, c, F2, K2, M(37) );
-      R( c, d, e, a, b, F2, K2, M(38) );
-      R( b, c, d, e, a, F2, K2, M(39) );
-      R( a, b, c, d, e, F3, K3, M(40) );
-      R( e, a, b, c, d, F3, K3, M(41) );
-      R( d, e, a, b, c, F3, K3, M(42) );
-      R( c, d, e, a, b, F3, K3, M(43) );
-      R( b, c, d, e, a, F3, K3, M(44) );
-      R( a, b, c, d, e, F3, K3, M(45) );
-      R( e, a, b, c, d, F3, K3, M(46) );
-      R( d, e, a, b, c, F3, K3, M(47) );
-      R( c, d, e, a, b, F3, K3, M(48) );
-      R( b, c, d, e, a, F3, K3, M(49) );
-      R( a, b, c, d, e, F3, K3, M(50) );
-      R( e, a, b, c, d, F3, K3, M(51) );
-      R( d, e, a, b, c, F3, K3, M(52) );
-      R( c, d, e, a, b, F3, K3, M(53) );
-      R( b, c, d, e, a, F3, K3, M(54) );
-      R( a, b, c, d, e, F3, K3, M(55) );
-      R( e, a, b, c, d, F3, K3, M(56) );
-      R( d, e, a, b, c, F3, K3, M(57) );
-      R( c, d, e, a, b, F3, K3, M(58) );
-      R( b, c, d, e, a, F3, K3, M(59) );
-      R( a, b, c, d, e, F4, K4, M(60) );
-      R( e, a, b, c, d, F4, K4, M(61) );
-      R( d, e, a, b, c, F4, K4, M(62) );
-      R( c, d, e, a, b, F4, K4, M(63) );
-      R( b, c, d, e, a, F4, K4, M(64) );
-      R( a, b, c, d, e, F4, K4, M(65) );
-      R( e, a, b, c, d, F4, K4, M(66) );
-      R( d, e, a, b, c, F4, K4, M(67) );
-      R( c, d, e, a, b, F4, K4, M(68) );
-      R( b, c, d, e, a, F4, K4, M(69) );
-      R( a, b, c, d, e, F4, K4, M(70) );
-      R( e, a, b, c, d, F4, K4, M(71) );
-      R( d, e, a, b, c, F4, K4, M(72) );
-      R( c, d, e, a, b, F4, K4, M(73) );
-      R( b, c, d, e, a, F4, K4, M(74) );
-      R( a, b, c, d, e, F4, K4, M(75) );
-      R( e, a, b, c, d, F4, K4, M(76) );
-      R( d, e, a, b, c, F4, K4, M(77) );
-      R( c, d, e, a, b, F4, K4, M(78) );
-      R( b, c, d, e, a, F4, K4, M(79) );
+      R( e, a, b, c, d, F1, K1, M( 0) );
+      R( d, e, a, b, c, F1, K1, M( 1) );
+      R( c, d, e, a, b, F1, K1, M( 2) );
+      R( b, c, d, e, a, F1, K1, M( 3) );
+      R( a, b, c, d, e, F2, K2, M( 4) );
+      R( e, a, b, c, d, F2, K2, M( 5) );
+      R( d, e, a, b, c, F2, K2, M( 6) );
+      R( c, d, e, a, b, F2, K2, M( 7) );
+      R( b, c, d, e, a, F2, K2, M( 8) );
+      R( a, b, c, d, e, F2, K2, M( 9) );
+      R( e, a, b, c, d, F2, K2, M(10) );
+      R( d, e, a, b, c, F2, K2, M(11) );
+      R( c, d, e, a, b, F2, K2, M(12) );
+      R( b, c, d, e, a, F2, K2, M(13) );
+      R( a, b, c, d, e, F2, K2, M(14) );
+      R( e, a, b, c, d, F2, K2, M(15) );
+      R( d, e, a, b, c, F2, K2, M( 0) );
+      R( c, d, e, a, b, F2, K2, M( 1) );
+      R( b, c, d, e, a, F2, K2, M( 2) );
+      R( a, b, c, d, e, F2, K2, M( 3) );
+      R( e, a, b, c, d, F2, K2, M( 4) );
+      R( d, e, a, b, c, F2, K2, M( 5) );
+      R( c, d, e, a, b, F2, K2, M( 6) );
+      R( b, c, d, e, a, F2, K2, M( 7) );
+      R( a, b, c, d, e, F3, K3, M( 8) );
+      R( e, a, b, c, d, F3, K3, M( 9) );
+      R( d, e, a, b, c, F3, K3, M(10) );
+      R( c, d, e, a, b, F3, K3, M(11) );
+      R( b, c, d, e, a, F3, K3, M(12) );
+      R( a, b, c, d, e, F3, K3, M(13) );
+      R( e, a, b, c, d, F3, K3, M(14) );
+      R( d, e, a, b, c, F3, K3, M(15) );
+      R( c, d, e, a, b, F3, K3, M( 0) );
+      R( b, c, d, e, a, F3, K3, M( 1) );
+      R( a, b, c, d, e, F3, K3, M( 2) );
+      R( e, a, b, c, d, F3, K3, M( 3) );
+      R( d, e, a, b, c, F3, K3, M( 4) );
+      R( c, d, e, a, b, F3, K3, M( 5) );
+      R( b, c, d, e, a, F3, K3, M( 6) );
+      R( a, b, c, d, e, F3, K3, M( 7) );
+      R( e, a, b, c, d, F3, K3, M( 8) );
+      R( d, e, a, b, c, F3, K3, M( 9) );
+      R( c, d, e, a, b, F3, K3, M(10) );
+      R( b, c, d, e, a, F3, K3, M(11) );
+      R( a, b, c, d, e, F4, K4, M(12) );
+      R( e, a, b, c, d, F4, K4, M(13) );
+      R( d, e, a, b, c, F4, K4, M(14) );
+      R( c, d, e, a, b, F4, K4, M(15) );
+      R( b, c, d, e, a, F4, K4, M( 0) );
+      R( a, b, c, d, e, F4, K4, M( 1) );
+      R( e, a, b, c, d, F4, K4, M( 2) );
+      R( d, e, a, b, c, F4, K4, M( 3) );
+      R( c, d, e, a, b, F4, K4, M( 4) );
+      R( b, c, d, e, a, F4, K4, M( 5) );
+      R( a, b, c, d, e, F4, K4, M( 6) );
+      R( e, a, b, c, d, F4, K4, M( 7) );
+      R( d, e, a, b, c, F4, K4, M( 8) );
+      R( c, d, e, a, b, F4, K4, M( 9) );
+      R( b, c, d, e, a, F4, K4, M(10) );
+      R( a, b, c, d, e, F4, K4, M(11) );
+      R( e, a, b, c, d, F4, K4, M(12) );
+      R( d, e, a, b, c, F4, K4, M(13) );
+      R( c, d, e, a, b, F4, K4, M(14) );
+      R( b, c, d, e, a, F4, K4, M(15) );
 
       a = ctx->A += a;
       b = ctx->B += b;
-- 
1.6.3.3


```

## Linus Torvalds, 2009-08-16 20:10

Subject: Re: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0908161306340.3162@localhost.localdomain>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.LFD.2.01.0908161306340.3162%40localhost.localdomain
In-Reply-To: <87eirbef3c.fsf@master.homenet>

```


On Sun, 16 Aug 2009, Giuseppe Scrivano wrote:
> 
> My GCC version is "gcc (Debian 4.3.3-14) 4.3.3" and the CPU is: Intel(R)
> Pentium(R) D CPU 3.20GHz.

Netburst is very sensitive to random spill effects, and you can basically 
tune things by just code shuffling that just has random effects on the 
generated asm code.

> I also spent some time trying to improve the gnulib SHA1 implementation
> and it seems a lookup table can improve things a bit.

I pretty much can guarantee you that it improves things only because it 
makes gcc generate crap code, which then hides some of the P4 issues.

I'd also suggest you try gcc-4.4, since that apparently fixes some of the 
oddest spill issues.

			Linus

```

## Giuseppe Scrivano, 2009-08-16 22:15

Subject: Re: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
Message-ID: <87ab1ze76y.fsf@master.homenet>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/87ab1ze76y.fsf%40master.homenet
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0908161306340.3162@localhost.localdomain>

```
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:

> I pretty much can guarantee you that it improves things only because it 
> makes gcc generate crap code, which then hides some of the P4 issues.
>
> I'd also suggest you try gcc-4.4, since that apparently fixes some of the 
> oddest spill issues.


Thanks for the hint.  I tried gcc-4.4 and it produces slower code than
4.3 on the gnulib SHA1 implementation and my patch makes it even more!

I noticed that on my machine your implementation is ~30-40% faster using
SHA_ROT for rol/ror instructions than inline assembly, at least with the
test-case Pádraig wrote.  Am I the only one reporting it?

Cheers,
Giuseppe

```

## Linus Torvalds, 2009-08-16 22:47

Subject: Re: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0908161539300.3162@localhost.localdomain>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.LFD.2.01.0908161539300.3162%40localhost.localdomain
In-Reply-To: <87ab1ze76y.fsf@master.homenet>

```


On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Giuseppe Scrivano wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the hint.  I tried gcc-4.4 and it produces slower code than
> 4.3 on the gnulib SHA1 implementation and my patch makes it even more!

Check out the asm, see if you can see why. One of the most common problems 
with P4's is literally that you end up loading from the same stack slot 
that you just stored to (gcc can do some really crazy spills), and that 
causes a store buffer hazard replay.

My personal opinion is that Netburst is useless for trying to optimize C 
code for. It's just too random.

> I noticed that on my machine your implementation is ~30-40% faster using
> SHA_ROT for rol/ror instructions than inline assembly, at least with the
> test-case Pádraig wrote.  Am I the only one reporting it?

I bet it's the same thing. Small perturbations of the source causing small 
changes to register allocation and thus spilling, and then Netburst goes 
crazy one way or another. It's interestign trying to fix it, and very 
frustrating.

My workstation is a Nehalem (but Core 2 will have pretty much the same 
behavior), and it doesn't have the crazy netburst behavior. Shorter and 
simpler code generally performs better (which is _not_ true on Netburst). 

On my machine, for example, forcing gcc to do those rotates on registers 
is the difference between ~381MB/s and 415MB/s. And that's mainly because 
it makes gcc keep A-E in registers, rather than trying to cache the 
array[] references.

			Linus

```

## Pádraig Brady, 2009-08-17 01:53

Subject: Re: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
Message-ID: <4A88B80D.40804@draigBrady.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/4A88B80D.40804%40draigBrady.com
In-Reply-To: <87eirbef3c.fsf@master.homenet>

```
Giuseppe Scrivano wrote:
> Hi Pádraig,
> 
> I tried to reproduce your results but I wasn't able to do it.  The
> biggest difference on a 300MB file I noticed was approximately 15% using
> on both implementations -O2, and 5% using -O3.
> My GCC version is "gcc (Debian 4.3.3-14) 4.3.3" and the CPU is: Intel(R)
> Pentium(R) D CPU 3.20GHz.
> 
> I also spent some time trying to improve the gnulib SHA1 implementation
> and it seems a lookup table can improve things a bit.
> 
> Can you please try the patch that I have attached and tell me which
> performance difference (if any) you get?

Thanks for looking at this Giuseppe
and sorry for not mentioning my GCC and CPU.

Note the binaries below is compiled with
$(rpm -q --qf="%{OPTFLAGS}\n" coreutils)
for consistency, which on my F11 machines is:

  -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions
  -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i586
  -mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -D_GNU_SOURCE=1

Testing on 2 machines I have here:

$ rpm -q gcc
gcc-4.4.1-2.fc11.i586
$ grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo | head -n1 | tr -s '[:blank:]' ' '
model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz
$ truncate -s300MB sha1.test
$ time sha1sum sha1.test
real    0m3.540s
$ time linus-sha1 sha1.test
real    0m2.319s (-34%)
$ time  giuseppe-sha1sum sha1.test
real    0m3.513s (-.8%)

$ rpm -q gcc
gcc-4.4.1-2.fc11.i586
$ grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo | head -n1 | tr -s '[:blank:]' ' '
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz
$ truncate -s300MB sha1.test
$ time sha1sum sha1.test
real    0m1.857s
$ time linus-sha1 sha1.test
real    0m1.102s (-40%)
$ time giuseppe-sha1sum sha1.test
real    0m1.932s (+ 4%)

cheers,
Pádraig.

```

## Nicolas Pitre, 2009-08-17 01:55

Subject: Re: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0908162151180.6044@xanadu.home>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.LFD.2.00.0908162151180.6044%40xanadu.home
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0908151336530.3162@localhost.localdomain>

```
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> (Heh. Looking at that, I probably should move the 'size' field first, 
> since that would have different alignment rules, and the struct would be 
> more tightly packed that way, and initialize better).

I was about to suggest (i.e. post) a patch for that.  This is indeed a 
good idea.

> Afaik, none of the actual code remains (the mozilla SHA1 thing did the 
> wrong thing for performance even for just the final bytes, and did those a 
> byte at a time etc, so I rewrote even the trivial SHA1_Final parts).

Maybe a patch adding a proper header with the actual license would be a 
good idea too.


Nicolas

```

## Andreas Ericsson, 2009-08-17 08:22

Subject: Re: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
Message-ID: <4A891348.5030203@op5.se>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/4A891348.5030203%40op5.se
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0908151336530.3162@localhost.localdomain>

```
Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 15 Aug 2009, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> That said, I don't know if the MPL is ok for X11. I've not looked at 
>> compatibility issues with MPL. For git, we could just ignore the MPL, 
>> since the GPLv2 was acceptable regardless of it.
> 
> If MPL isn't ok for X11, then we'd need to make sure that even the 
> silliest Mozilla crud has been rewritten. There really isn't much, but 
> hey, the _history_ is based on the mozilla code, and who knows - the 
> 'blk_SHA_CTX' struct has things like the fields in the same order as the 
> Mozilla equivalent, for all those historical reasons.
> 
> (Heh. Looking at that, I probably should move the 'size' field first, 
> since that would have different alignment rules, and the struct would be 
> more tightly packed that way, and initialize better).
> 
> Afaik, none of the actual code remains (the mozilla SHA1 thing did the 
> wrong thing for performance even for just the final bytes, and did those a 
> byte at a time etc, so I rewrote even the trivial SHA1_Final parts).
> 
> Of course, maybe the Mozilla people would be interested in taking my 
> faster version, and say that the new-BSD license is ok, and make everybody 
> happy. The only listed author for the Mozilla SHA1 is Paul Kocher. I added 
> him to the Cc.
> 
> Paul, for your information, we're talking about a faster rewritten "mostly 
> portable" SHA1 routines that you can find at
> 
> 	http://git.kernel.org/?p=git/git.git;a=tree;f=block-sha1;hb=pu
> 
> (follow the "blob" pointers to see sha1.c and sha1.h). I don't know if 
> you're active with Mozilla/Firefox or whether you even care, but you seem 
> to be the logical choice of person to ask.
> 

I contacted Paul in february this year to get permission to use the mozilla
sha1 code for libgit2. His reply then was:
"I'm not sure which version the diffs are relative to, so I haven't reviewed them.
It's fine to distribute under BSD, GPL, or LGPL, however."

I also got explicit permission to relicense it under GPLv2 with the gcc exception.

I added the mail-address I used to contact him to CC as well. Sorry if you get
this twice, Paul.

Naturally, I'd like to use the faster version for libgit2 as well. The people
who Linus listed as contributors earlier (Brandon Casy, Linus, Junio and Nicolas
Pitre) have already consented to relicense their git contributions for libgit2
use. If anyone would like to revoke that consent for this code, speak now please,
or I'll patch it into libgit2 as well.

-- 
Andreas Ericsson                   andreas.ericsson@op5.se
OP5 AB                             www.op5.se
Tel: +46 8-230225                  Fax: +46 8-230231

Considering the successes of the wars on alcohol, poverty, drugs and
terror, I think we should give some serious thought to declaring war
on peace.

```

## Giuseppe Scrivano, 2009-08-17 10:51

Subject: Re: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
Message-ID: <8763cmemsa.fsf@master.homenet>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/8763cmemsa.fsf%40master.homenet
In-Reply-To: <4A88B80D.40804@draigBrady.com>

```
Pádraig Brady <P@draigBrady.com> writes:

>   -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions
>   -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i586
>   -mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -D_GNU_SOURCE=1

thanks.  I did again all tests on my machine using these same options.
I repeated each test 6 times and I took the median without consider the
first result.  Except the first run that it is not considered, I didn't
report a big variance on results of the same test.


gcc 4.3.3

gnulib sha1:            real	0m2.543s
gnulib sha1 lookup:     real	0m1.906s (-25%)
linus's sha1:           real	0m2.468s (-3%)
linus's sha1 no asm:    real	0m2.289s (-9%)


gcc 4.4.1

gnulib sha1:            real	0m3.386s
gnulib sha1 lookup:     real	0m3.110s (-8%)
linus's sha1:           real	0m1.701s (-49%)
linus's sha1 no asm:    real	0m1.284s (-62%)


I don't see such big differences in asm generated by gcc 4.4.1 and gcc
4.3.3 to explain this performance difference, what I noticed immediately
is that in the gcc-4.4 generated asm there are more "lea" instructions
(+30%), but I doubt this is the reason of these poor results.  Anyway, I
haven't yet looked much in details.

Cheers,
Giuseppe

```

## Steven Noonan, 2009-08-17 15:44

Subject: Re: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
Message-ID: <f488382f0908170844h649126efxb27f87d7b319961b@mail.gmail.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/f488382f0908170844h649126efxb27f87d7b319961b%40mail.gmail.com
In-Reply-To: <8763cmemsa.fsf@master.homenet>

```
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Giuseppe Scrivano<gscrivano@gnu.org> wrote:
> Pádraig Brady <P@draigBrady.com> writes:
>
>>   -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions
>>   -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i586
>>   -mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -D_GNU_SOURCE=1
>
> thanks.  I did again all tests on my machine using these same options.
> I repeated each test 6 times and I took the median without consider the
> first result.  Except the first run that it is not considered, I didn't
> report a big variance on results of the same test.
>
>
> gcc 4.3.3
>
> gnulib sha1:            real    0m2.543s
> gnulib sha1 lookup:     real    0m1.906s (-25%)
> linus's sha1:           real    0m2.468s (-3%)
> linus's sha1 no asm:    real    0m2.289s (-9%)
>
>
> gcc 4.4.1
>
> gnulib sha1:            real    0m3.386s
> gnulib sha1 lookup:     real    0m3.110s (-8%)
> linus's sha1:           real    0m1.701s (-49%)
> linus's sha1 no asm:    real    0m1.284s (-62%)
>
>
> I don't see such big differences in asm generated by gcc 4.4.1 and gcc
> 4.3.3 to explain this performance difference, what I noticed immediately
> is that in the gcc-4.4 generated asm there are more "lea" instructions
> (+30%), but I doubt this is the reason of these poor results.  Anyway, I
> haven't yet looked much in details.
>
> Cheers,
> Giuseppe

Interesting. I compared Linus' implementation to the public domain one
by Steve Reid[1], which is used in OpenLDAP and a few other projects.
Anyone with some experience testing these kinds of things in a
statistically sound manner want to try it out? In my tests, I got
this:

(average of 5 runs)
Linus' sha1: 283MB/s
Steve Reid's sha1: 305MB/s

- Steven

[1] http://gpl.nas-central.org/SYNOLOGY/x07-series/514_UNTARED/source/openldap-2.3.11/libraries/liblutil/sha1.c

```

## Linus Torvalds, 2009-08-17 16:22

Subject: Re: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0908170852320.3162@localhost.localdomain>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.LFD.2.01.0908170852320.3162%40localhost.localdomain
In-Reply-To: <f488382f0908170844h649126efxb27f87d7b319961b@mail.gmail.com>

```


On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Steven Noonan wrote:
> 
> Interesting. I compared Linus' implementation to the public domain one
> by Steve Reid[1]

You _really_ need to talk about what kind of environment you have.

There are three major issues:
 - Netburst vs non-netburst
 - 32-bit vs 64-bit
 - compiler version

Steve Reid's code looks great, but the way it is coded, gcc makes a mess 
of it, which is exactly what my SHA1 tries to avoid.

[ In contrast, gcc does very well on just about _any_ straightforward 
  unrolled SHA1 C code if the target architecture is something like PPC or 
  ia64 that has enough registers to keep it all in registers.

  I haven't really tested other compilers - a less aggressive compiler 
  would actually do _better_ on SHA1, because the problem with gcc is that 
  it turns the whole temporary 16-entry word array into register accesses, 
  and tries to do register allocation on that _array_.

  That is wonderful for the above-mentioned PPC and IA64, but it makes gcc 
  create totally crazy code when there aren't enough registers, and then 
  gcc starts spilling randomly (ie it starts spilling a-e etc). This is 
  why the compiler and version matters so much. ]

> (average of 5 runs)
> Linus' sha1: 283MB/s
> Steve Reid's sha1: 305MB/s

So I get very different results:

	#             TIME[s] SPEED[MB/s]
	Reid            2.742       222.6
	linus           1.464         417

this is Intel Nehalem, but compiled for 32-bit mode (which is the more 
challenging one because x86-32 only has 7 general-purpose registers), and 
with gcc-4.4.0.

			Linus

```

## Giuseppe Scrivano, 2009-08-17 17:32

Subject: Re: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
Message-ID: <871vnae47k.fsf@master.homenet>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/871vnae47k.fsf%40master.homenet
In-Reply-To: <f488382f0908170844h649126efxb27f87d7b319961b@mail.gmail.com>

```
Hi,

These are the results I reported (median of 5 plus an additional not
considered first run) on the Steve Reid's SHA1 implementation using the
same flags to the compiler that I used for previous tests.

GCC 4.3.3:  real	0m2.627s
GCC 4.4.1:  real	0m3.742s

In both cases it showed to be slower than other implementations I have
already tried.

Additional note: as for gnulib SHA1, GCC 4.4.1 produced slower code than
GCC 4.3.3.

Cheers,
Giuseppe



Steven Noonan <steven@uplinklabs.net> writes:

>
> Interesting. I compared Linus' implementation to the public domain one
> by Steve Reid[1], which is used in OpenLDAP and a few other projects.
> Anyone with some experience testing these kinds of things in a
> statistically sound manner want to try it out? In my tests, I got
> this:
>
> (average of 5 runs)
> Linus' sha1: 283MB/s
> Steve Reid's sha1: 305MB/s
>
> - Steven
>
> [1] http://gpl.nas-central.org/SYNOLOGY/x07-series/514_UNTARED/source/openldap-2.3.11/libraries/liblutil/sha1.c

```

## Steven Noonan, 2009-08-17 21:43

Subject: Re: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
Message-ID: <f488382f0908171443n7fa92342v1ac12f52a17fd048@mail.gmail.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/f488382f0908171443n7fa92342v1ac12f52a17fd048%40mail.gmail.com
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0908170852320.3162@localhost.localdomain>

```
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Linus
Torvalds<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Steven Noonan wrote:
>>
>> Interesting. I compared Linus' implementation to the public domain one
>> by Steve Reid[1]
>
> You _really_ need to talk about what kind of environment you have.
>
> There are three major issues:
>  - Netburst vs non-netburst
>  - 32-bit vs 64-bit
>  - compiler version

Right. I'm running a Core 2 "Merom" 2.33GHz. The code was compiled for
x86_64 with GCC 4.2.1. I didn't _expect_ it to compile for x86_64, but
apparently the version of GCC that ships with Xcode 3.2 defaults to
compiling 64-bit code on machines that are capable of running it.

>
> Steve Reid's code looks great, but the way it is coded, gcc makes a mess
> of it, which is exactly what my SHA1 tries to avoid.
>
> [ In contrast, gcc does very well on just about _any_ straightforward
>  unrolled SHA1 C code if the target architecture is something like PPC or
>  ia64 that has enough registers to keep it all in registers.
>
>  I haven't really tested other compilers - a less aggressive compiler
>  would actually do _better_ on SHA1, because the problem with gcc is that
>  it turns the whole temporary 16-entry word array into register accesses,
>  and tries to do register allocation on that _array_.
>
>  That is wonderful for the above-mentioned PPC and IA64, but it makes gcc
>  create totally crazy code when there aren't enough registers, and then
>  gcc starts spilling randomly (ie it starts spilling a-e etc). This is
>  why the compiler and version matters so much. ]
>
>> (average of 5 runs)
>> Linus' sha1: 283MB/s
>> Steve Reid's sha1: 305MB/s
>
> So I get very different results:
>
>        #             TIME[s] SPEED[MB/s]
>        Reid            2.742       222.6
>        linus           1.464         417

Added -m32:

Steve Reid: 156MB/s
Linus: 209MB/s

So on x86, your code really kicks butt.

> this is Intel Nehalem, but compiled for 32-bit mode (which is the more
> challenging one because x86-32 only has 7 general-purpose registers), and
> with gcc-4.4.0.
>
>                        Linus
>

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## Pádraig Brady, 2009-08-26 11:39

Subject: Re: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
Message-ID: <4A951EFB.1010400@draigBrady.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/4A951EFB.1010400%40draigBrady.com
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0908162151180.6044@xanadu.home>

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Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Aug 2009, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
>> (Heh. Looking at that, I probably should move the 'size' field first, 
>> since that would have different alignment rules, and the struct would be 
>> more tightly packed that way, and initialize better).
> 
> I was about to suggest (i.e. post) a patch for that.  This is indeed a 
> good idea.
> 
>> Afaik, none of the actual code remains (the mozilla SHA1 thing did the 
>> wrong thing for performance even for just the final bytes, and did those a 
>> byte at a time etc, so I rewrote even the trivial SHA1_Final parts).
> 
> Maybe a patch adding a proper header with the actual license would be a 
> good idea too.

So have you decided on a final licence,
and if so update the headers accordingly?

cheers!
Pádraig.

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## galt, 2017-04-20 21:35

Subject: Re: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
Message-ID: <1492724128603-7657473.post@n2.nabble.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/1492724128603-7657473.post%40n2.nabble.com
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I also wanted to include Linus' sha1 in our software at work.
But the GPLv2 license was incompatible.
Too bad it is just just in the public domain.
I grabbed Steve Reid's public domain code from 1999
and ran it. It produced the same output.
I ran it on a 3GB input file, and Linus' code from 2009 takes 37 to 40
seconds.
(Just reading the file in the same 4k buffers only takes 3 seconds 
so disk reading does not dominate the time.)
When I ran Steve's old version on the same input it was taking just 36 or 37
seconds.
So it is slightly faster.
Have compilers improved?
I am using gcc 4.4.7-17.





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## galt, 2017-04-20 21:38

Subject: Re: Linus' sha1 is much faster!
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A Phádraig, cá bhfuil tú i do chónaí?
Tá mé i gCalafoirne.



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