# Git Logo

13 messages from 2009-08-03 to 2009-08-03. Participants: Scott Chacon, Thiago Farina, David Soria Parra, Jakub Narebski, Julian Phillips, Johannes Schindelin, Sverre Rabbelier.
Thread: https://gitlist.dev/t/20354

## Scott Chacon, 2009-08-03 14:53

Subject: Git Logo
Message-ID: <d411cc4a0908030753r7bbe4038lf05c416530db46ed@mail.gmail.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/d411cc4a0908030753r7bbe4038lf05c416530db46ed%40mail.gmail.com

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Who owns the copyright to the Git logo as seen here?

http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/FrontPage?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=git-logo.png

Apress wants to use it on the cover of the Pro Git book and I'm not
sure who to ask about that - no name is listed on the wiki page
(http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitRelatedLogos).

Thanks,
Scott

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## Thiago Farina, 2009-08-03 15:07

Subject: Re: Git Logo
Message-ID: <742707500908030807k138c3fcco58ccc8af26c37d7d@mail.gmail.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/742707500908030807k138c3fcco58ccc8af26c37d7d%40mail.gmail.com
In-Reply-To: <d411cc4a0908030753r7bbe4038lf05c416530db46ed@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi guys,

I'm new to git, I already downloaded the msysgit. I'm working with git
a couples weeks now. But I want to start debugging the git source code
in Windows. How can I do that? Can I do that using Visual Studio, or
there are other methods to debug git?

Thanks all, great work!

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Scott Chacon<schacon@gmail.com> wrote:
> Who owns the copyright to the Git logo as seen here?
>
> http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/FrontPage?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=git-logo.png
>
> Apress wants to use it on the cover of the Pro Git book and I'm not
> sure who to ask about that - no name is listed on the wiki page
> (http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitRelatedLogos).
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
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## David Soria Parra, 2009-08-03 15:22

Subject: Re: Git Logo
Message-ID: <slrnh7e05f.1lc.sn_@experimentalworks.net>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/slrnh7e05f.1lc.sn_%40experimentalworks.net
In-Reply-To: <d411cc4a0908030753r7bbe4038lf05c416530db46ed@mail.gmail.com>

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On 2009-08-03, Scott Chacon <schacon@gmail.com> wrote:
> Who owns the copyright to the Git logo as seen here?
>
> http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/FrontPage?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=git-logo.png
According to git's history, the file was commited by Martin Waitz 
in 281f2f6b45bf62e5bc81a6b457f1f7d26c426ea3 and is licensed under the
GPL.

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## Jakub Narebski, 2009-08-03 15:58

Subject: Re: Git Logo
Message-ID: <m3d47criu5.fsf@localhost.localdomain>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/m3d47criu5.fsf%40localhost.localdomain
In-Reply-To: <slrnh7e05f.1lc.sn_@experimentalworks.net>

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David Soria Parra <sn_@gmx.net> writes:
> On 2009-08-03, Scott Chacon <schacon@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Who owns the copyright to the Git logo as seen here?
> >
> > http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/FrontPage?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=git-logo.png
>
> According to git's history, the file was commited by Martin Waitz 
> in 281f2f6b45bf62e5bc81a6b457f1f7d26c426ea3 and is licensed under the
> GPL.

The file git-logo.png as separate file was added by Martin Waitz in
281f2f6 (gitweb: use out-of-line GIT logo., 2006-07-31), but it was
just extracting file that was earlier created by gitweb with
'git-logo.png' action.

If you go back in history, you would notice that gitweb started to
generate it correctly in 8f1deb5 (set logo output to raw mode,
2005-11-23) by Kay Sievers, was converted from octal to hex in 
b87d78d (v107, 2005-08-07), with the following comment
  # cat git-logo.png | hexdump -e '16/1 " %02x"  "\n"' | sed 's/ /\\x/g'
and that before being embedded in gitweb (being generated by gitweb)
in 44ad297 (v014, 2005-08-07) it was simply git_logo.png file (back
then a separate file).  I _think_ that link to git_logo.png first
appeared in 4c02e3c (v000, 2005-08-07), which was second commit for
gitweb.

>From examining file with 'identify -verbose' from ImageMagick you can
see
  Version: ImageMagick 6.2.2 05/24/06 Q16
(I guess that mean 24 June 2005, not 24 May 2006).

That doesn't help (much) to get to know who is the author of
git_logo.png, and what license it is under.  I expect it to be GPLv2
(or GPLv2 or later) licensed, like the rest of Git.
-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland
ShadeHawk on #git

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## Jakub Narebski, 2009-08-03 16:02

Subject: Working on Git on MS Windows (was: Re: Git Logo)
Message-ID: <m38wi0rine.fsf_-_@localhost.localdomain>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/m38wi0rine.fsf_-_%40localhost.localdomain
In-Reply-To: <742707500908030807k138c3fcco58ccc8af26c37d7d@mail.gmail.com>

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Thiago Farina <thiago.farina@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi guys,
> 
> I'm new to git, I already downloaded the msysgit. I'm working with git
> a couples weeks now. But I want to start debugging the git source code
> in Windows. How can I do that? Can I do that using Visual Studio, or
> there are other methods to debug git?
> 
> Thanks all, great work!

First, please do not post unrelated message as a followup; this
message should be start of new thread, and have appropriate subject
(like the one above).

Second, do not toppost.  Third, only quote what is necessary.


Git uses GNU make as a build tool, so I am not sure if you can develop
Git with MS Visual Studio.  You should have GNU make installed if you
have chosen appropriate version of msysGit (the one with developer
tools).

-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland
ShadeHawk on #git

```

## Thiago Farina, 2009-08-03 16:06

Subject: Re: Working on Git on MS Windows (was: Re: Git Logo)
Message-ID: <742707500908030906h12f29050hd792911e9c74e635@mail.gmail.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/742707500908030906h12f29050hd792911e9c74e635%40mail.gmail.com
In-Reply-To: <m38wi0rine.fsf_-_@localhost.localdomain>

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On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Jakub Narebski<jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thiago Farina <thiago.farina@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I'm new to git, I already downloaded the msysgit. I'm working with git
>> a couples weeks now. But I want to start debugging the git source code
>> in Windows. How can I do that? Can I do that using Visual Studio, or
>> there are other methods to debug git?
>>
>> Thanks all, great work!
>
> First, please do not post unrelated message as a followup; this
> message should be start of new thread, and have appropriate subject
> (like the one above).
>
> Second, do not toppost.  Third, only quote what is necessary.
>
>
> Git uses GNU make as a build tool, so I am not sure if you can develop
> Git with MS Visual Studio.  You should have GNU make installed if you
> have chosen appropriate version of msysGit (the one with developer
> tools).
>
Hi Jakub,

Sorry for my mistakes, was the first time I posted to the
mailling-list, and I didn't know about this rules.
I can build the git with make which was installed by msysGit. But I
want to debug, not only build.
> --
> Jakub Narebski
> Poland
> ShadeHawk on #git
>

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## Jakub Narebski, 2009-08-03 16:28

Subject: Re: Working on Git on MS Windows
Message-ID: <200908031828.42426.jnareb@gmail.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/200908031828.42426.jnareb%40gmail.com
In-Reply-To: <742707500908030906h12f29050hd792911e9c74e635@mail.gmail.com>

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On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Thiago Farina wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Jakub Narebski<jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thiago Farina <thiago.farina@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>> I'm new to git, I already downloaded the msysgit. I'm working with git
>>> a couples weeks now. But I want to start debugging the git source code
>>> in Windows. How can I do that? Can I do that using Visual Studio, or
>>> there are other methods to debug git?
>>
>> Git uses GNU make as a build tool, so I am not sure if you can develop
>> Git with MS Visual Studio.  You should have GNU make installed if you
>> have chosen appropriate version of msysGit (the one with developer
>> tools).
>
> I can build the git with make which was installed by msysGit. But I
> want to debug, not only build.

I don't know if you can debug msysGit with MS Visual Studio. I think
you should be able to, as msysGit is native Windows application. But
I do not program on MS Windows myself.

Perhaps this question should be better asked on msysGit Google Group?
http://groups.google.com/group/msysgit

-- 
Jakub Narebski

Git User's Survey 2009:
http://tinyurl.com/GitSurvey2009

```

## Julian Phillips, 2009-08-03 17:19

Subject: Re: Git Logo
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.0908031807430.17866@reaper.quantumfyre.co.uk>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.LNX.2.00.0908031807430.17866%40reaper.quantumfyre.co.uk
In-Reply-To: <m3d47criu5.fsf@localhost.localdomain>

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On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Jakub Narebski wrote:

> David Soria Parra <sn_@gmx.net> writes:
>> On 2009-08-03, Scott Chacon <schacon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Who owns the copyright to the Git logo as seen here?
>>>
>>> http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/FrontPage?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=git-logo.png
>>

[ - snip discussion of git repo history - ]

>> From examining file with 'identify -verbose' from ImageMagick you can
> see
>  Version: ImageMagick 6.2.2 05/24/06 Q16
> (I guess that mean 24 June 2005, not 24 May 2006).

Er ... isn't that just the version of ImageMagick you are using?  (i.e. 
the same as the output of 'identify -version')

> That doesn't help (much) to get to know who is the author of
> git_logo.png, and what license it is under.  I expect it to be GPLv2
> (or GPLv2 or later) licensed, like the rest of Git.

The majority of the early commits to gitweb don't include any comments, 
but I did find an early post from Kay to the mailing list lurking buried 
down there in my mail folder:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/1075

I guess that the logo referred to is the same one ...

-- 
Julian

  ---
The person you rejected yesterday could make you happy, if you say yes.

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## Jakub Narebski, 2009-08-03 17:48

Subject: Re: Git Logo
Message-ID: <200908031948.50545.jnareb@gmail.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/200908031948.50545.jnareb%40gmail.com
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.0908031807430.17866@reaper.quantumfyre.co.uk>

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Dnia poniedziałek 3. sierpnia 2009 19:19, Julian Phillips napisał:
> On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Jakub Narebski wrote: 
>> David Soria Parra <sn_@gmx.net> writes:
>>> On 2009-08-03, Scott Chacon <schacon@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Who owns the copyright to the Git logo as seen here?
>>>>
>>>> http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/FrontPage?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=git-logo.png

>> That doesn't help (much) to get to know who is the author of
>> git_logo.png, and what license it is under.  I expect it to be GPLv2
>> (or GPLv2 or later) licensed, like the rest of Git.
> 
> The majority of the early commits to gitweb don't include any comments, 
> but I did find an early post from Kay to the mailing list lurking buried 
> down there in my mail folder:
> 
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/1075
> 
> I guess that the logo referred to is the same one ...

Thanks a lot. The relevant part of mentioned email states:

From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers <at> vrfy.org>
KS> Many thanks to Christian Gierke for all the interface work, the nice
KS> layout and the git logo.


Now that you found this, I have remembered that at the top of gitweb
code there is the following copyright statement:

  # (C) 2005-2006, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
  # (C) 2005, Christian Gierke
  #
  # This program is licensed under the GPLv2

which is then repeated in page header:

  <!-- git web interface version $version, \
  (C) 2005-2006, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>, Christian Gierke -->

-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

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## Johannes Schindelin, 2009-08-03 22:07

Subject: Re: Working on Git on MS Windows
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0908040005170.8306@pacific.mpi-cbg.de>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.DEB.1.00.0908040005170.8306%40pacific.mpi-cbg.de
In-Reply-To: <200908031828.42426.jnareb@gmail.com>

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Hi,

On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Jakub Narebski wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Thiago Farina wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Jakub Narebski<jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Thiago Farina <thiago.farina@gmail.com> writes:
> >>>
> >>> I'm new to git, I already downloaded the msysgit. I'm working with 
> >>> git a couples weeks now. But I want to start debugging the git 
> >>> source code in Windows. How can I do that? Can I do that using 
> >>> Visual Studio, or there are other methods to debug git?
> >>
> >> Git uses GNU make as a build tool, so I am not sure if you can 
> >> develop Git with MS Visual Studio.  You should have GNU make 
> >> installed if you have chosen appropriate version of msysGit (the one 
> >> with developer tools).
> >
> > I can build the git with make which was installed by msysGit. But I 
> > want to debug, not only build.
> 
> I don't know if you can debug msysGit with MS Visual Studio.

I have no idea if that is possible, and I have no inclination to 
install/buy MS Visual Studio to find out.

However, I think I can assist anybody trying to do it.  You'll have to 
know how to operate Visual Studio, though, and come back with specific 
things that do not work.

> I think you should be able to, as msysGit is native Windows application. 
> But I do not program on MS Windows myself.
> 
> Perhaps this question should be better asked on msysGit Google Group?
> http://groups.google.com/group/msysgit

Almost definitely.

Ciao,
Dscho

```

## Sverre Rabbelier, 2009-08-03 22:19

Subject: Re: Working on Git on MS Windows
Message-ID: <fabb9a1e0908031519n5ebbfdd2i28bf91970f4648d2@mail.gmail.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/fabb9a1e0908031519n5ebbfdd2i28bf91970f4648d2%40mail.gmail.com
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0908040005170.8306@pacific.mpi-cbg.de>

```
Heya,

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 15:07, Johannes
Schindelin<Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> I have no idea if that is possible, and I have no inclination to
> install/buy MS Visual Studio to find out.

You don't have to buy it to be able to install it, try the Express
editions, they're free, and pretty feature complete :).

-- 
Cheers,

Sverre Rabbelier

```

## Johannes Schindelin, 2009-08-03 23:37

Subject: Re: Working on Git on MS Windows
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0908040136270.8306@pacific.mpi-cbg.de>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.DEB.1.00.0908040136270.8306%40pacific.mpi-cbg.de
In-Reply-To: <fabb9a1e0908031519n5ebbfdd2i28bf91970f4648d2@mail.gmail.com>

```
Hi,

On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Sverre Rabbelier wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 15:07, Johannes
> Schindelin<Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> > I have no idea if that is possible, and I have no inclination to 
> > install/buy MS Visual Studio to find out.
> 
> You don't have to buy it to be able to install it, try the Express 
> editions, they're free, and pretty feature complete :).

Express is limited.

Besides, I find it a bit too much asked for to ask me to get something I 
will _never_ need to work.  I actually have own itches to scratch, you 
know?

Ciao,
Dscho

```

## Sverre Rabbelier, 2009-08-03 23:40

Subject: Re: Working on Git on MS Windows
Message-ID: <fabb9a1e0908031640u4289f1a7n61a6918d6cac7b96@mail.gmail.com>
URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/fabb9a1e0908031640u4289f1a7n61a6918d6cac7b96%40mail.gmail.com
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0908040136270.8306@pacific.mpi-cbg.de>

```
Heya,

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 16:37, Johannes
Schindelin<Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> will _never_ need to work.  I actually have own itches to scratch, you
> know?

Oh sure, I didn't mean that you should go ahead and install Express,
just that if you for whatever reason felt compelled to use VS... ;).

-- 
Cheers,

Sverre Rabbelier

```
