# Google Summer of Code 2009 - Organization Application 14 messages from 2009-03-10 to 2009-03-22. Participants: Shawn O. Pearce, Jakub Narebski, Christian Couder, Sverre Rabbelier, Johannes Schindelin, Scott Chacon, Sam Vilain. Thread: https://gitlist.dev/t/18240 ## Shawn O. Pearce, 2009-03-10 00:16 Subject: Google Summer of Code 2009 - Organization Application Message-ID: <20090310001613.GL11989@spearce.org> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20090310001613.GL11989%40spearce.org ``` Folks, its that time of year again. We need to apply to be a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2009. Deadline is this Friday around noon PST. I have updated the application document on the wiki with the current questions and more up-to-date answers: http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/SoC2009Application Please make any comments in the next day or so, so that we can address them and have time to upload the completed application before their cut-off deadline. -- Shawn. ``` ## Jakub Narebski, 2009-03-10 12:42 Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code 2009 - Organization Application Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/m31vt5im3j.fsf%40localhost.localdomain In-Reply-To: <20090310001613.GL11989@spearce.org> ``` "Shawn O. Pearce" writes: > Folks, its that time of year again. We need to apply to be a > mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2009. > > Deadline is this Friday around noon PST. > > I have updated the application document on the wiki with the > current questions and more up-to-date answers: > > http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/SoC2009Application > > Please make any comments in the next day or so, so that we can > address them and have time to upload the completed application > before their cut-off deadline. Thank you very much for your efforts wrt Google Summers of Code. About SoC2009Application: why it refers to SoC2008Template? -- Jakub Narebski Poland ShadeHawk on #git ``` ## Shawn O. Pearce, 2009-03-10 14:24 Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code 2009 - Organization Application Message-ID: <20090310142421.GN11989@spearce.org> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20090310142421.GN11989%40spearce.org In-Reply-To: ``` Jakub Narebski wrote: > "Shawn O. Pearce" writes: > > > http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/SoC2009Application > > About SoC2009Application: why it refers to SoC2008Template? Because the template hasn't changed for 2009? -- Shawn. ``` ## Christian Couder, 2009-03-18 05:51 Subject: GitTogether '09 Message-ID: <200903180651.33381.chriscool@tuxfamily.org> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/200903180651.33381.chriscool%40tuxfamily.org In-Reply-To: <20090310001613.GL11989@spearce.org> ``` Le mardi 10 mars 2009, Shawn O. Pearce a écrit : > Folks, its that time of year again. We need to apply to be a > mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2009. Maybe we could also start discussing GitTogether '09 location and date. I have added a GitTogether '09 heading to the wiki page and a few location and date ideas: http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitTogether The location and dates are: * San Francisco in October, just after the Google Summer of Code Mentor * Portland Oregon in September, during or after LinuxCon (http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon) and/or Linux Plumbers Conference (http://linuxplumbersconf.org/) Best regards, Christian. ``` ## Sverre Rabbelier, 2009-03-18 06:46 Subject: Re: GitTogether '09 Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/fabb9a1e0903172346j74b9992r1b0a8d6eb523103c%40mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: <200903180651.33381.chriscool@tuxfamily.org> ``` Heya, On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 06:51, Christian Couder wrote: >  * San Francisco in October, just after the Google Summer of Code Mentor Considering that (assuming git is accepted as mentoring organization) we can ask Google for 2 airplane tickets, I'm voting for this option ;). -- Cheers, Sverre Rabbelier ``` ## Christian Couder, 2009-03-18 07:05 Subject: Re: GitTogether '09 Message-ID: <200903180805.32440.chriscool@tuxfamily.org> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/200903180805.32440.chriscool%40tuxfamily.org In-Reply-To: ``` Le mercredi 18 mars 2009, Sverre Rabbelier a écrit : > Heya, > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 06:51, Christian Couder wrote: > >  * San Francisco in October, just after the Google Summer of Code > > Mentor > > Considering that (assuming git is accepted as mentoring organization) > we can ask Google for 2 airplane tickets, I'm voting for this option > ;). I thought that it was only one international airplane ticket last year, except perhaps when there are no US based mentor. And we are not sure that Google or another company in the Bay Area will be able to host us this year. So the cost of hosting the GitTogether might be higher than the cost of a few airplane tickets. Regards, Christian. ``` ## Sverre Rabbelier, 2009-03-18 09:54 Subject: Re: GitTogether '09 Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/fabb9a1e0903180254u5569e9f5u5e1aa43fa2d1d178%40mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: <200903180805.32440.chriscool@tuxfamily.org> ``` Heya, On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 08:05, Christian Couder wrote: > I thought that it was only one international airplane ticket last year, > except perhaps when there are no US based mentor. And we are not sure that > Google or another company in the Bay Area will be able to host us this > year. So the cost of hosting the GitTogether might be higher than the cost > of a few airplane tickets. Last year Google provided two international airplane tickets and was able to host us, we can at least ask them to host us again this year (if that is what we decide on). Shawn, how likely is it that Google will provide hosting for another GitTogether this year? -- Cheers, Sverre Rabbelier ``` ## Shawn O. Pearce, 2009-03-18 14:35 Subject: Re: GitTogether '09 Message-ID: <20090318143532.GD23521@spearce.org> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20090318143532.GD23521%40spearce.org In-Reply-To: ``` Sverre Rabbelier wrote: > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 08:05, Christian Couder wrote: > > I thought that it was only one international airplane ticket last year, > > except perhaps when there are no US based mentor. And we are not sure that > > Google or another company in the Bay Area will be able to host us this > > year. So the cost of hosting the GitTogether might be higher than the cost > > of a few airplane tickets. > > Last year Google provided two international airplane tickets and was > able to host us, we can at least ask them to host us again this year > (if that is what we decide on). Did Google do two international tickets last year for Git? Hmm, don't go spreading that word around. Very few groups got that amount of travel money for the mentor summit. Maybe none others. IMHO, _if_ Git is accepted this year, and _if_ the mentor summit is held this fall as it has been in the past, Google will most likely cover only one ticket, especially if we actually also supported a GitTogether immediately after. > Shawn, how likely is it that Google will provide hosting for another > GitTogether this year? I will ask. Last year it was difficult on LH. Despite the fact that most of the attendees probably never even met her, she put a lot of work into the GitTogether behind the scenes. Without her efforts, the GitTogether simply would not have happened here. It was also *immediately* after the biggest event of the year that she and her team run (GSoC mentor summit), and really close to two other very big events that they run. They were working pretty much 7 days a week for over 3 months straight, and were really looking forward to some time off when I threw GitTogether '08 into their calendar. I'm not sure I can ask LH to put her and her team through that again. I want to continue living. :-) There is also the most popular issue of budgets. GitTogether '08 wasn't free for us. Its cheaper than anything we would get from a conference venue/hotel outside the Googleplex, but it still was a non-trivial sum. We simply may not have the funds for it this year. -- Shawn. ``` ## Johannes Schindelin, 2009-03-18 14:53 Subject: Re: GitTogether '09 Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.DEB.1.00.0903181551380.10279%40pacific.mpi-cbg.de In-Reply-To: <20090318143532.GD23521@spearce.org> ``` Hi, On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Shawn O. Pearce wrote: > Sverre Rabbelier wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 08:05, Christian Couder wrote: > > > I thought that it was only one international airplane ticket last > > > year, except perhaps when there are no US based mentor. And we are > > > not sure that Google or another company in the Bay Area will be able > > > to host us this year. So the cost of hosting the GitTogether might > > > be higher than the cost of a few airplane tickets. > > > > Last year Google provided two international airplane tickets and was > > able to host us, we can at least ask them to host us again this year > > (if that is what we decide on). > > Did Google do two international tickets last year for Git? I do not think so. Mugwump got the international airplane ticket, AFAIR, and warthog the local "ticket". Ciao, Dscho ``` ## Shawn O. Pearce, 2009-03-18 15:55 Subject: Re: GitTogether '09 Message-ID: <20090318155532.GE23521@spearce.org> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20090318155532.GE23521%40spearce.org In-Reply-To: ``` Johannes Schindelin wrote: > On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Shawn O. Pearce wrote: > > > > Did Google do two international tickets last year for Git? > > I do not think so. Mugwump got the international airplane ticket, AFAIR, > and warthog the local "ticket". Oh, so it was two tickets. Mugwump and Sverre flew on Google's dime. The reason Sverre was invited was his already heavy involvement with Melange. Google initially asked me to spend our international ticket on Sverre only, but I talked them into including Mugwump too once I pointed out Sverre was attending for Google's own selfish reasons (Melange) and not to represent Git. warthog9 is a local. Local mentors were accepted en-masse near the end of registration when a lot of orgs had open mentor slots. You flew on your own dime. I'm local. David also managed to fly on Google's dime, but out of his manager's business travel budget and not the Summer of Code budget. -- Shawn. ``` ## Scott Chacon, 2009-03-18 16:05 Subject: Re: GitTogether '09 Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/d411cc4a0903180905x1cb2a1c2j87922300dbf77e7b%40mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20090318143532.GD23521@spearce.org> ``` Hey, On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Shawn O. Pearce wrote: > Sverre Rabbelier wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 08:05, Christian Couder wrote: >> > I thought that it was only one international airplane ticket last year, >> > except perhaps when there are no US based mentor. And we are not sure that >> > Google or another company in the Bay Area will be able to host us this >> > year. So the cost of hosting the GitTogether might be higher than the cost >> > of a few airplane tickets. >> >> Last year Google provided two international airplane tickets and was >> able to host us, we can at least ask them to host us again this year >> (if that is what we decide on). > > Did Google do two international tickets last year for Git?  Hmm, > don't go spreading that word around.  Very few groups got that > amount of travel money for the mentor summit.  Maybe none others. > > IMHO, _if_ Git is accepted this year, and _if_ the mentor summit is > held this fall as it has been in the past, Google will most likely > cover only one ticket, especially if we actually also supported a > GitTogether immediately after. > >> Shawn, how likely is it that Google will provide hosting for another >> GitTogether this year? > > I will ask. > > Last year it was difficult on LH.  Despite the fact that most of > the attendees probably never even met her, she put a lot of work > into the GitTogether behind the scenes.  Without her efforts, > the GitTogether simply would not have happened here. > > It was also *immediately* after the biggest event of the year > that she and her team run (GSoC mentor summit), and really close > to two other very big events that they run.  They were working > pretty much 7 days a week for over 3 months straight, and were > really looking forward to some time off when I threw GitTogether > '08 into their calendar. > > I'm not sure I can ask LH to put her and her team through that again. > I want to continue living.  :-) > > There is also the most popular issue of budgets.  GitTogether '08 > wasn't free for us.  Its cheaper than anything we would get from a > conference venue/hotel outside the Googleplex, but it still was a > non-trivial sum.  We simply may not have the funds for it this year. Let me know if I can help out at all. If Google doesn't want to host it, but everyone still wants to string together the GSOC summit and this, I'm sure GitHub can find a nice venue for us and get some food and whatnot. Or, if we can simply 'sponsor' it or something - give the Goog money to host it for us, however that might work. We want to help this happen again this year, so keep me in the loop and we can make sure it gets handled somehow. Scott > > -- > Shawn. > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > ``` ## Shawn O. Pearce, 2009-03-18 16:11 Subject: Re: GitTogether '09 Message-ID: <20090318161118.GG23521@spearce.org> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20090318161118.GG23521%40spearce.org In-Reply-To: ``` Scott Chacon wrote: > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Shawn O. Pearce wrote: > > There is also the most popular issue of budgets. ??GitTogether '08 > > wasn't free for us. ??Its cheaper than anything we would get from a > > conference venue/hotel outside the Googleplex, but it still was a > > non-trivial sum. ??We simply may not have the funds for it this year. > > Let me know if I can help out at all. If Google doesn't want to host > it, but everyone still wants to string together the GSOC summit and > this, I'm sure GitHub can find a nice venue for us and get some food > and whatnot. Or, if we can simply 'sponsor' it or something - give > the Goog money to host it for us, however that might work. We want to > help this happen again this year, so keep me in the loop and we can > make sure it gets handled somehow. Hey Scott, thanks. FWIW, Google doesn't co-sponsor events. So if we do host it, we'll cover everything like we did last year, but maybe GitHub can sponsor an off-site dinner again, like it did last year. But perhaps this year you guys could select the venue for that. :-) Anyway, today is not the best day to go asking for budget and time from LH (big GSoC announcement today). Give me a week or two to figure out if Google can host us here or in Portland. FWIW, last year Portland around the Linux Plumbers conference was tossed out as an option, but it was too close calendar wise to be possible for planning purposes. -- Shawn. ``` ## Sam Vilain, 2009-03-22 22:00 Subject: Re: [Gittogether] Re: GitTogether '09 Message-ID: <49C6B4E6.8030000@vilain.net> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/49C6B4E6.8030000%40vilain.net In-Reply-To: ``` Johannes Schindelin wrote: >>> Last year Google provided two international airplane tickets and was >>> able to host us, we can at least ask them to host us again this year >>> (if that is what we decide on). >>> >> Did Google do two international tickets last year for Git? >> > > I do not think so. Mugwump got the international airplane ticket, AFAIR, > and warthog the local "ticket". > Right, and we decided to give Christian back his air fare with some of the Mentor treasure, so that was the second international ticket essentially paid by Google. Speaking of spoils, I'm now on Vendor number 3 for the T-Shirts which are apparently in a print queue now. It's a depressing that it's now longer since the conference than til the next one :( I'll be contacting everyone off-line asking for their size requirements and following up those who didn't send me addresses yet.. Sam. ``` ## Sam Vilain, 2009-03-22 22:01 Subject: Re: [Gittogether] Re: GitTogether '09 Message-ID: <49C6B554.10806@vilain.net> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/49C6B554.10806%40vilain.net In-Reply-To: <49C6B4E6.8030000@vilain.net> ``` Sam Vilain wrote: > I'll be contacting everyone off-line asking for their size requirements I meant off-list, clearly :-) Sam. ```