# 'mail' link on http://repo.or.cz/w/git.git no workee? 12 messages from 2009-01-15 to 2009-01-17. Participants: Johannes Schindelin, Petr Baudis, Junio C Hamano, Jacob Helwig, Jens Seidel. Thread: https://gitlist.dev/t/17193 ## Johannes Schindelin, 2009-01-15 15:53 Subject: 'mail' link on http://repo.or.cz/w/git.git no workee? Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.DEB.1.00.0901151651460.3586%40pacific.mpi-cbg.de ``` Hi Pasky, sorry to bother you between two games of Go; Could you have a look at the 'mail' link with the commit "Update 1.6.2 draft release notes"? It is not working for me... That is, it links to marc (not gmane?) but finds no matches... Ciao, Dscho ``` ## Petr Baudis, 2009-01-16 01:54 Subject: Re: 'mail' link on http://repo.or.cz/w/git.git no workee? Message-ID: <20090116015439.GF12275@machine.or.cz> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20090116015439.GF12275%40machine.or.cz In-Reply-To: ``` Hi, On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 04:53:48PM +0100, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > sorry to bother you between two games of Go; Could you have a look at the > 'mail' link with the commit "Update 1.6.2 draft release notes"? It is not > working for me... > > That is, it links to marc (not gmane?) but finds no matches... what mailing list post should it point to? Petr "Pasky" Baudis ``` ## Junio C Hamano, 2009-01-16 01:59 Subject: Re: 'mail' link on http://repo.or.cz/w/git.git no workee? Message-ID: <7vmydsovs5.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/7vmydsovs5.fsf%40gitster.siamese.dyndns.org In-Reply-To: <20090116015439.GF12275@machine.or.cz> ``` Petr Baudis writes: >> That is, it links to marc (not gmane?) but finds no matches... > > what mailing list post should it point to? I think Dscho's point is that you shouldn't be generating these links that lead to nowhere ;-). It would really be nice if we can maintain an exterenal database that links mailing list discussion threads and individual commits, and have gitweb and other visualization tools to make use of that information. I do not care what storage mechanism that external database uses. It could use notes or it could just be a BDB that can be indexed with commit object names. ``` ## Johannes Schindelin, 2009-01-16 02:17 Subject: Re: 'mail' link on http://repo.or.cz/w/git.git no workee? Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.DEB.1.00.0901160315170.3586%40pacific.mpi-cbg.de In-Reply-To: <7vmydsovs5.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> ``` Hi, On Thu, 15 Jan 2009, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Petr Baudis writes: > > >> That is, it links to marc (not gmane?) but finds no matches... > > > > what mailing list post should it point to? I found gmane to be much nicer to click through than marc. > I think Dscho's point is that you shouldn't be generating these links > that lead to nowhere ;-). Almost. I wondered what the point was, and I would _welcome_ links that pointed to the mails containing the patches (identified either by patch ids or by manual editing; best would be to have both methods at the same time). Ciao, Dscho ``` ## Petr Baudis, 2009-01-16 02:24 Subject: Re: 'mail' link on http://repo.or.cz/w/git.git no workee? Message-ID: <20090116022408.GG12275@machine.or.cz> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20090116022408.GG12275%40machine.or.cz In-Reply-To: ``` On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 03:17:14AM +0100, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jan 2009, Junio C Hamano wrote: > > > Petr Baudis writes: > > > > >> That is, it links to marc (not gmane?) but finds no matches... > > > > > > what mailing list post should it point to? > > I found gmane to be much nicer to click through than marc. IIRC I found no way to actually make a gmane link since it requires POST query for the searches or something. > > I think Dscho's point is that you shouldn't be generating these links > > that lead to nowhere ;-). > > Almost. > > I wondered what the point was, and I would _welcome_ links that pointed to > the mails containing the patches (identified either by patch ids or by > manual editing; best would be to have both methods at the same time). Well, but you already have that, or at least an approximation. Do you think the approximation is inadequate? I would expect linking to a commit showing the inadequacy - I don't see how a false positive is inadequate at all, actually; even if we had a separate database with the mapping, for no records I think falling back to linking to a mailing list search still makes more sense than showing no link. I was not actually planning to carry the patch over the next gitweb update since I got no feedback on it (IIRC) since I implemented it. -- Petr "Pasky" Baudis The average, healthy, well-adjusted adult gets up at seven-thirty in the morning feeling just terrible. -- Jean Kerr ``` ## Jacob Helwig, 2009-01-16 02:32 Subject: Re: 'mail' link on http://repo.or.cz/w/git.git no workee? Message-ID: <8c9a060901151832l71464185qf9f88afede6f550d@mail.gmail.com> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/8c9a060901151832l71464185qf9f88afede6f550d%40mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20090116022408.GG12275@machine.or.cz> ``` On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 18:24, Petr Baudis wrote: > > IIRC I found no way to actually make a gmane link since it requires POST > query for the searches or something. > $ cat bin/gmane-links.pl #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use warnings; use Mail::Summary::Tools::ArchiveLink::Gmane; unless ($ARGV[0]) { print STDERR "Must provide a message-id.\n"; exit 1; } my $link = Mail::Summary::Tools::ArchiveLink::Gmane->new(message_id => $ARGV[0]); print "Thread: " . $link->thread_uri() . "\n"; print "Message: " . $link->message_uri() . "\n"; ``` ## Junio C Hamano, 2009-01-16 02:41 Subject: Re: 'mail' link on http://repo.or.cz/w/git.git no workee? Message-ID: <7vd4eootvj.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/7vd4eootvj.fsf%40gitster.siamese.dyndns.org In-Reply-To: <8c9a060901151832l71464185qf9f88afede6f550d@mail.gmail.com> ``` "Jacob Helwig" writes: > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 18:24, Petr Baudis wrote: >> >> IIRC I found no way to actually make a gmane link since it requires POST >> query for the searches or something. >> > > $ cat bin/gmane-links.pl > #!/usr/bin/perl > > use strict; > use warnings; > > use Mail::Summary::Tools::ArchiveLink::Gmane; > > unless ($ARGV[0]) { > print STDERR "Must provide a message-id.\n"; > exit 1; > } > > my $link = Mail::Summary::Tools::ArchiveLink::Gmane->new(message_id => > $ARGV[0]); > > print "Thread: " . $link->thread_uri() . "\n"; > print "Message: " . $link->message_uri() . "\n"; Not quite, if message_id means what I think it means. Pasky searches for the title of the message, and he does not have the Message-ID header of the original message. ``` ## Junio C Hamano, 2009-01-16 02:43 Subject: Re: 'mail' link on http://repo.or.cz/w/git.git no workee? Message-ID: <7v8wpcots2.fsf@gitster.siamese.dyndns.org> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/7v8wpcots2.fsf%40gitster.siamese.dyndns.org In-Reply-To: <20090116022408.GG12275@machine.or.cz> ``` Petr Baudis writes: > I was not actually planning to carry the patch over the next gitweb > update since I got no feedback on it (IIRC) since I implemented it. Heh, now you got it. And I do not think you advertised it since you implemented it, so no feedback does not necessarily mean no interest. FWIW, I think looking for a message that has similar words in the mail archive is a nifty feature to have. ``` ## Jens Seidel, 2009-01-16 09:03 Subject: Re: 'mail' link on http://repo.or.cz/w/git.git no workee? Message-ID: <20090116090301.GA13300@merkur.sol.de> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20090116090301.GA13300%40merkur.sol.de In-Reply-To: <20090116015439.GF12275@machine.or.cz> ``` On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 02:54:39AM +0100, Petr Baudis wrote: > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 04:53:48PM +0100, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > > sorry to bother you between two games of Go; Could you have a look at the > > 'mail' link with the commit "Update 1.6.2 draft release notes"? It is not > > working for me... > > > > That is, it links to marc (not gmane?) but finds no matches... Just a side note: The link to the mailing list on http://git-scm.com/ is also not optimal as it refers to gmane. I tried to subscribe but found only a link to http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git and no instructions how to subscribe ... Jens ``` ## Johannes Schindelin, 2009-01-16 11:27 Subject: Re: 'mail' link on http://repo.or.cz/w/git.git no workee? Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.DEB.1.00.0901161224360.3586%40pacific.mpi-cbg.de In-Reply-To: <20090116022408.GG12275@machine.or.cz> ``` Hi, On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Petr Baudis wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 03:17:14AM +0100, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > > > I wondered what the point was, and I would _welcome_ links that > > pointed to the mails containing the patches (identified either by > > patch ids or by manual editing; best would be to have both methods at > > the same time). > > Well, but you already have that, or at least an approximation. Oh, I see! Somehow I missed that this link exists for all non-merge commits... > I was not actually planning to carry the patch over the next gitweb > update since I got no feedback on it (IIRC) since I implemented it. Well, now you got one: I find it nice. And I agree with you on the false positive thing: it is better to have that link also for commits for which no mails can be found. I just had to scratch my head about what "mail" is about... Ciao, Dscho ``` ## Johannes Schindelin, 2009-01-16 11:37 Subject: Re: 'mail' link on http://repo.or.cz/w/git.git no workee? Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.DEB.1.00.0901161235380.3586%40pacific.mpi-cbg.de In-Reply-To: <20090116022408.GG12275@machine.or.cz> ``` Hi, On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Petr Baudis wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 03:17:14AM +0100, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Jan 2009, Junio C Hamano wrote: > > > > > Petr Baudis writes: > > > > > > >> That is, it links to marc (not gmane?) but finds no matches... > > > > > > > > what mailing list post should it point to? > > > > I found gmane to be much nicer to click through than marc. > > IIRC I found no way to actually make a gmane link since it requires POST > query for the searches or something. The site seems to be down ATM, but it should be http://search.gmane.org/search.php?group=gmane.comp.version-control.git&query=pasky BTW how about calling the link "find mail"? When I saw "mail" first time, I thought "oh, so I can mail that commitdiff to somebody? Nice, let's try." Ciao, Dscho ``` ## Johannes Schindelin, 2009-01-17 15:19 Subject: Re: 'mail' link on http://repo.or.cz/w/git.git no workee? Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/alpine.DEB.1.00.0901171619060.3586%40pacific.mpi-cbg.de In-Reply-To: ``` Hi, On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Johannes Schindelin wrote: > The site seems to be down ATM, but it should be > > http://search.gmane.org/search.php?group=gmane.comp.version-control.git&query=pasky FWIW, it is up again. Ciao, Dscho ```