# GIT and SCC 7 messages from 2008-11-05 to 2008-11-17. Participants: Martin Terreni, Shawn O. Pearce, Mike Ralphson, Theodore Tso, Jan Hudec, Andreas Ericsson. Thread: https://gitlist.dev/t/16183 ## Shawn O. Pearce, 2008-11-05 18:25 Subject: Re: GIT and SCC Message-ID: <20081105182506.GO15463@spearce.org> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20081105182506.GO15463%40spearce.org In-Reply-To: <1225909527.8578.10.camel@terrenisrv1.terrenis.net> ``` Martin Terreni wrote: > Does Git support SCC in any way? What is SCC? Google defines it as the Seminole Community College Campus Web Site (www.scc-fl.edu). As far as I know, we do not send them money. -- Shawn. ``` ## Martin Terreni, 2008-11-05 18:25 Subject: GIT and SCC Message-ID: <1225909527.8578.10.camel@terrenisrv1.terrenis.net> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/1225909527.8578.10.camel%40terrenisrv1.terrenis.net ``` Does Git support SCC in any way? Regards, Martin Terreni ``` ## Mike Ralphson, 2008-11-05 19:11 Subject: Re: GIT and SCC Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/e2b179460811051111y2d6e4c5eq19c8b58b93f942a9%40mail.gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20081105182506.GO15463@spearce.org> ``` 2008/11/5 Shawn O. Pearce : > Martin Terreni wrote: >> Does Git support SCC in any way? > > What is SCC? > > Google defines it as the Seminole Community College Campus Web Site > (www.scc-fl.edu). As far as I know, we do not send them money. And if we did, would it be hard money? ``` ## Martin Terreni, 2008-11-05 19:23 Subject: Re: GIT and SCC Message-ID: <1225913035.8578.18.camel@terrenisrv1.terrenis.net> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/1225913035.8578.18.camel%40terrenisrv1.terrenis.net In-Reply-To: ``` http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCC_compliant It is probably not much, but this is what I could find in a minute. many VC system have a SCC complaint API (apart of the native). This protocol was created by M$ is used by many systems so they are not bound to a specific VC tool. Thanks for the quick response any way :) -----Original Message----- From: Mike Ralphson To: Shawn O. Pearce Cc: Martin Terreni , git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: GIT and SCC Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:11:06 +0000 2008/11/5 Shawn O. Pearce : > Martin Terreni wrote: >> Does Git support SCC in any way? > > What is SCC? > > Google defines it as the Seminole Community College Campus Web Site > (www.scc-fl.edu). As far as I know, we do not send them money. And if we did, would it be hard money? ``` ## Theodore Tso, 2008-11-05 19:38 Subject: Re: GIT and SCC Message-ID: <20081105193824.GA9266@mit.edu> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20081105193824.GA9266%40mit.edu In-Reply-To: <1225913035.8578.18.camel@terrenisrv1.terrenis.net> ``` On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 09:23:55PM +0200, Martin Terreni wrote: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCC_compliant > > It is probably not much, but this is what I could find in a minute. many > VC system have a SCC complaint API (apart of the native). This protocol > was created by M$ is used by many systems so they are not bound to a > specific VC tool. It's a closed-source, undocumented API that you can only get access to by signing a Microsoft NDA. From the WinMerge API: SCC API is closed API (no public documentation available) some IDE's (e.g. Visual Studio) use. There apparently have couple of reverse-engineered free implementations for SCC API. Status of those are unknown. WARNING: Be very sure you are not submitting any code behing NDA for WinMerge. WinMerge is Open Source so it is not legal to do. And what is worse it would prevent anybody reading that code working with SCC (and perhaps also VCS) support. http://winmerge.org/Wiki/VCS_integration - Ted ``` ## Jan Hudec, 2008-11-16 21:51 Subject: Re: GIT and SCC Message-ID: <20081116215134.GA4719@efreet.light.src> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20081116215134.GA4719%40efreet.light.src In-Reply-To: <20081105193824.GA9266@mit.edu> ``` On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 14:38:25 -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: > On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 09:23:55PM +0200, Martin Terreni wrote: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCC_compliant > > > > It is probably not much, but this is what I could find in a minute. many > > VC system have a SCC complaint API (apart of the native). This protocol > > was created by M$ is used by many systems so they are not bound to a > > specific VC tool. > > It's a closed-source, undocumented API that you can only get access to > by signing a Microsoft NDA. From the WinMerge API: > > SCC API is closed API (no public documentation available) some > IDE's (e.g. Visual Studio) use. There apparently have couple > of reverse-engineered free implementations for SCC API. Status > of those are unknown. > > WARNING: Be very sure you are not submitting any code behing > NDA for WinMerge. WinMerge is Open Source so it is not legal > to do. And what is worse it would prevent anybody reading that > code working with SCC (and perhaps also VCS) support. > I don't really know what this interface is about, but: - For VS6 and newer, source control plugin can be implemented by creating a dll exporting particular set of controls. This is documented in help files that come with VS2005 SDK which is freely downloadable from M$ web, so I don't think that would be under NDA. - For VS2003 and newer (ie. the .NET based versions), plugins can be implemented for almost anything, including source control, by creating .net assembly exporting classes that implement some particular interfaces. These interfaces are documented in the abovementioned SDK, so again no NDA needed. I actually started writing such plugin some months back, but since I can only work on it at $work (don't have Windooze at ~, not to mention VS2005 license -- the SDK is free to download, but requires full, non-express, studio) and since it does not look like I could get them use Git at $work anytime soon, I didn't work on it too much. Still I could share the basic skeleton and the knowledge I have if somebody wanted to move that somewhere. -- Jan 'Bulb' Hudec ``` ## Andreas Ericsson, 2008-11-17 07:05 Subject: Re: GIT and SCC Message-ID: <492117AC.6070200@op5.se> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/492117AC.6070200%40op5.se In-Reply-To: <20081116215134.GA4719@efreet.light.src> ``` Jan Hudec wrote: > On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 14:38:25 -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 09:23:55PM +0200, Martin Terreni wrote: >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCC_compliant >>> >>> It is probably not much, but this is what I could find in a minute. many >>> VC system have a SCC complaint API (apart of the native). This protocol >>> was created by M$ is used by many systems so they are not bound to a >>> specific VC tool. >> It's a closed-source, undocumented API that you can only get access to >> by signing a Microsoft NDA. From the WinMerge API: >> >> SCC API is closed API (no public documentation available) some >> IDE's (e.g. Visual Studio) use. There apparently have couple >> of reverse-engineered free implementations for SCC API. Status >> of those are unknown. >> >> WARNING: Be very sure you are not submitting any code behing >> NDA for WinMerge. WinMerge is Open Source so it is not legal >> to do. And what is worse it would prevent anybody reading that >> code working with SCC (and perhaps also VCS) support. >> > > I don't really know what this interface is about, but: > - For VS6 and newer, source control plugin can be implemented by creating > a dll exporting particular set of controls. This is documented in help > files that come with VS2005 SDK which is freely downloadable from M$ web, > so I don't think that would be under NDA. > - For VS2003 and newer (ie. the .NET based versions), plugins can be > implemented for almost anything, including source control, by creating > .net assembly exporting classes that implement some particular interfaces. > These interfaces are documented in the abovementioned SDK, so again no NDA > needed. > I actually started writing such plugin some months back, but since I can only > work on it at $work (don't have Windooze at ~, not to mention VS2005 license > -- the SDK is free to download, but requires full, non-express, studio) and > since it does not look like I could get them use Git at $work anytime soon, > I didn't work on it too much. Still I could share the basic skeleton and > the knowledge I have if somebody wanted to move that somewhere. > I'm interested. Please email me off-list. I'll pass it on to the monodevelop people and see what happens. Hopefully they can reuse the same interface so that mono plugins all of a sudden work everywhere. -- Andreas Ericsson andreas.ericsson@op5.se OP5 AB www.op5.se Tel: +46 8-230225 Fax: +46 8-230231 ```