# sync() slowdown 4 messages from 2008-05-26 to 2008-05-26. Participants: Sebastien Gross, Kenneth P. Turvey, Matthieu Moy. Thread: https://gitlist.dev/t/13673 ## Sebastien Gross, 2008-05-26 14:26 Subject: sync() slowdown Message-ID: <20080526142607.GA3082@kali.thurne.chezwam.org> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20080526142607.GA3082%40kali.thurne.chezwam.org ``` Hi git users, I use git (a very basic usage) every day and I noticed a big slowdown when I do a "git repack -a -d". I noticed that it only happens when I do backup to an usb stick. After a few investigation, I noticed that sync() is call when repacking objects (from both builtin-prune.c and builtin-prune-packed.c). I do understand that syncing filesystem is usefull and needed. But is there a good idea to add a --no-sync option to prevent that behaviour ? I think this might be useful if you repack many repositories. If you call the sync command before looping the repacks I guess this could be equivalent (modulo changes done in repositories during that time). Any idea suggestions ? Thanks lot Cheers. -- Sébastien Gross ``` ## Kenneth P. Turvey, 2008-05-26 16:06 Subject: Re: sync() slowdown Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/g1en6g%24vuc%241%40ger.gmane.org In-Reply-To: <20080526142607.GA3082@kali.thurne.chezwam.org> ``` On Mon, 26 May 2008 16:26:07 +0200, Sebastien Gross wrote: > I do understand that syncing filesystem is usefull and needed. > > But is there a good idea to add a --no-sync option to prevent that > behaviour ? Just a user here, but I would prefer it if it didn't sync at all. If I want to sync it, I will, or the operating system will handle it like it does with all other file accesses. Just my 2 cents. I was just editing my backup script the other day and part of the problem with it was that I was syncing too often. What I needed was a single sync when everything was done. This was possible because I was just doing copies and tars. It should be possible with git too. -- Kenneth P. Turvey http://www.electricsenator.net There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson ``` ## Matthieu Moy, 2008-05-26 16:09 Subject: Re: sync() slowdown Message-ID: URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/vpq1w3p59ns.fsf%40bauges.imag.fr In-Reply-To: <20080526142607.GA3082@kali.thurne.chezwam.org> ``` Sebastien Gross writes: > I think this might be useful if you repack many repositories. > If you call the sync command before looping the repacks I guess this > could be equivalent (modulo changes done in repositories during that > time). I suppose git-repack does something like write_new_data(); sync(); delete_old_data(); And if you remove the "sync" and your system crashes (or you eject your USB key, or ...) while "delete_old_data" is done, but "write_new_data" hasn't been sync-ed to the hard disk, you're in trouble. If you repack many repositories, I guess the first time is expansive, but the next ones pay only for what they just did. My 2 cents, -- Matthieu ``` ## Sebastien Gross, 2008-05-26 16:32 Subject: Re: sync() slowdown Message-ID: <20080526163217.GB3082@kali.thurne.chezwam.org> URL: https://gitlist.dev/e/20080526163217.GB3082%40kali.thurne.chezwam.org In-Reply-To: ``` On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 04:06:41PM +0000, kt-usenet@squeakydolphin.com wrote: > On Mon, 26 May 2008 16:26:07 +0200, Sebastien Gross wrote: > > > I do understand that syncing filesystem is usefull and needed. > > > > But is there a good idea to add a --no-sync option to prevent that > > behaviour ? > > Just a user here, but I would prefer it if it didn't sync at all. If I > want to sync it, I will, or the operating system will handle it like it > does with all other file accesses. Well I guess I missed something in my explanation. I do my backup to an usb stick (somewhere like /media/usb0) and I work in git dirs (somewhere in /srv/git-repo). Obviously these 2 mount points are in different physical devices. In a common run the system would sync cache and storage media when needed. But git (both prune and prune-packed command) call the sync() function before pruning objects and packs: builtin-prune-packed.c: int cmd_prune_packed(int argc, const char **argv, const char *prefix) ... sync(); prune_packed_objects(opts); return 0; } The code is exactly the same in builtin-prune.c. calling sync is a good way to be sure that no unsaved data remains in ram and then everything would be included in the packs. This must remain the default behaviour. But in some case, sync() would also act on usb storage (which is my case) and would be very slow. I do repack a lot of repositories something such as: for d in *.git; do cd $d; git repack -a -d; cd ..; done In the same time if I use the usb stick to do some backup on it, it would change all the time then sync() would flush a changed cache for each call. That's why I suggested to add a --no-sync option to bypass the sync() call. In any case this would be a dangerous option to not use unless you know what you are doing. Cheers -- Sébastien Gross ```